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** NVIDIA GTX 1080 FOUNDERS EDITION: WANNA PRE-ORDER?

Legend said:
In an ideal world, literally no-one would buy this... we'd all just sit here laughing at the price, waiting for the real one. Which eventually would appear, significantly lower. But of course that won't happen, the fools part with their money yet again... I wonder what history will make of this madness? :(
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The thing is, this doesnt just hurt us. It actually hurts makers of gaming PC components across the board. If this is to be the new pricing structure for GPU's then a LOT of people will just say no, and buy a console. This pricing will hurt AMD (unless they vastly undercut) it will hurt Intel, it will hurt Corsair, it will hurt EVGA....you get the picture. It will put people off PC gaming and push them to consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia Chairman gets a "friendly" email from Intel chairman asking what the pricing is all about. After all, less people gaming on PC means less Skylake sales.
 
All these cards are exactly the same founders edition cards? Only the packaging different? So paying an extra £30 for the MSI box?

I thought price fixing was against the law?
 
drunkenmaster said:
Nope, the board can't be used for anything other than that specific GPU. They've provided the design for AIBs to be able to install more power delivery and provide a better overall card but chose to not provide that extra delivery on this reference card on purpose making it worse value.

In many previous releases the reference boards were actually excellent quality and custom pcbs often skimped with worse mosfets, less available amps, worse cooling and cheaper pcbs as a result. AMD reference cards for instance were for years amongst the best and watercooling a reference card provided excellent results so people would look specifically for a reference AMD card to put a waterblock on rather than a cheaper less good pcb from a 3rd party.

Here you will have pretty much the opposite, reference cards leaving a few power stages and pci-e 8 pin out to save cash but will make it a worse card under water cooling.
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Ah - makes sense. Cheers DM. :)

Know you what you mean about sometimes custom PCBs aren't as good as reference. I bought couple of the custom XFX 5870's when they were going cheap as EOL, and couldn't overclock them AT ALL even by 10MHz without them crashing/causing issues, and none of the tools ever supported adjusting the voltage chips or could monitor any of the VRMs.
 
beany_bot said:
Can I ask a stupid question...

Are these actually different from each other? Other than the box? I mean they look identical?? I thought the whole point of board partners was customs fans and overclocks? What on earth are these?
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That is my question! Are they just the same cards but with different boxes and software or are there any hardware differences?
Founders/Reference just seems so pointless to have all the manufacturers selling the identical card?
 
beany_bot said:
Or.... try and convince people that this is too much money. Get them to hold off buying. And prices come crashing down for everyone....

Just a thought.
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Not going to happen, far too many who'll buy the cards who don't even read forums or if they do they don't give a monkeys anyway.
 
beany_bot said:
Or.... try and convince people that this is too much money. Get them to hold off buying. And prices come crashing down for everyone....

Just a thought.
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Some people do have to have the biggest and best though. That's what floats their boat for them, so all that happens is people bicker.
 
They're identical in the reference design, you can buy MSI, Zotac, Palit etc cards with the reference design on. the custom coolers will come later.

Founder sorry.
 
beany_bot said:
The thing is, this doesnt just hurt us. It actually hurts makers of gaming PC components across the board. If this is to be the new pricing structure for GPU's then a LOT of people will just say no, and buy a console. This pricing will hurt AMD (unless they vastly undercut) it will hurt Intel, it will hurt Corsair, it will hurt EVGA....you get the picture. It will put people off PC gaming and push them to consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia Chairman gets a "friendly" email from Intel chairman asking what the pricing is all about. After all, less people gaming on PC means less Skylake sales.
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Not offering it as an excuse, I think they are a pretty expensive. However, thats a load of rubbish. Top end GPU's(and PC components) have always been expensive, since the dawn of time, yet PC gaming still going strong.
 
danoliver1 said:
Wink at it? ;)
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beany_bot said:
Or.... try and convince people that this is too much money. Get them to hold off buying. And prices come crashing down for everyone....

Just a thought.
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Well I will give you 11/10 for your effort. Just as a heads up, I bought a watch in the states (Florida) and it was like £100 cheaper there and proper result I thought... Till they charged mt tax and it ended up being £20 cheaper. Might be worth thinking about for when you go and buy a 1080 :)
 
I fully understand the thinking behind the pricing if nobody bites but really, some just do want the latest and greatest and will pay whatever it takes.

I did the whole "trying to dissuade them" in the past and it makes little difference. Some would buy even if it was £1000.

Better just let them do it, it makes them happy and the forum gets along. :)
 
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