Nvidia is expected to present the new graphics card in a gaming event in Montreal, which takes place on 16-17 October(day after AMD NDA lifts).
Maybe Amd should change NDA to 11 October and ship 290x same day and counter Nvidia
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Nvidia is expected to present the new graphics card in a gaming event in Montreal, which takes place on 16-17 October(day after AMD NDA lifts).
Haven't seen anything that implies its nVidia only, just that the test kits are built with nVidia GPUs
the valve reveal implies a variety of hardware from different manufacturers can be used.
That's what I read anyway.
See what I mean.
Again simply put- 'It's called pre-emptive marketing, attack before you are attacked.'
No, I read it on here, they quoted and linked to the article that explained Nvidia's Open GL for Linux is way ahead of AMDs and that's why Valve are using Nvidia cards in their Steam boxes.
Its 70 better than the GK110!!
With Nvidia launching a new highend 28NM GPU in the next few months,wouldn't this mean like AMD,they will be using 28NM for at least the next 6 to 9 months??
Perhaps Apple using 20NM initially,is squeezing both AMD and Nvidia??
Haven't you stopped and asked yourself where all of a sudden these 'pro linux' articles surfaced from and why they surfaced considering not that long ago Linus Torvalds publicy berated Nvidia for their approach to Linux?
Again 'I read it' isn't the same as first hand experience, I'm not arguing the case of what's/who's better than the other here, not by a long shot, I'm simply pointing out the power of PR.
PR/Spin, happens everywhere, sometimes undercover paid for advertising would be better a description as it is happening and people do not have the slightest clue that it is.
This is a workstation card that costs £6000, I doubt it's part of NV's psy-ops campaign.
Haven't you stopped and asked yourself where all of a sudden these 'pro linux' articles surfaced from and why they surfaced considering not that long ago Linus Torvalds publicy berated Nvidia for their approach to Linux?
Again 'I read it' isn't the same as first hand experience, I'm not arguing the case of what's/who's better than the other here, not by a long shot, I'm simply pointing out the power of PR.
PR/Spin, happens everywhere, sometimes undercover paid for advertising would be better a description as it is happening and people do not have the slightest clue that it is.
Linus was talking about the open-source driver.
'Linux creator and Millennium Technology Prize laureate Linus Torvalds called NVIDIA the "single worst company" he and his associates dealt with. Torvalds made these comments in an interactive session with students, developers, and entrepreneurs, at the Aalto Center for Entrepreneurship in Otaniemi, Finland. The session was conducted in English.
Responding to a question by one of his audience complaining how NVIDIA was extremely stubborn in sharing technologies such as Optimus (dynamic switching between integrated and discrete GPUs) with the Linux community, and seeking his comments on the matter, Torvalds called NVIDIA "one of the worst trouble spots [they've] had with hardware manufacturers." He continued "...and that is really sad [for NVIDIA], because NVIDIA tries to sell a lot of chips into the Android market." With this comment, Torvalds reminded NVIDIA that its business with Linux isn't confined to client computing platforms such as PCs, but also the Android-driven portable computing market (of smartphones and tablets), which is growing at a breakneck pace.
Torvalds soon escalated his assessment of NVIDIA as being "the single worst company [they've] ever dealt with." Torvalds then got more 'graphic' (pun intended), and flipped the bird to the cameras. "...so NVIDIA, **** you!" he exclaimed. The recording of the event is embedded below. The part in question starts at 0:48:10, though the entire video makes for a very good watch.'
http://www.techpowerup.com/167855/-...e-ve-Ever-Dealt-With-quot-Linus-Torvalds.html
I can see you want to paint this as
tommybhoy said:I'm not arguing the case of what's/who's better than the other here, not by a long shot, I'm simply pointing out the power of PR
But they have a proprietry driver for linux, it was just missing features for ages was it not? Also as stated he isn't actually saying "you don't have an open driver you're rubbish". He's simply saying Nvidia are the worst company he has worked with, there are MANY other companys that have said the same thing. Sony for instance, on their closed platform PS3 pretty much say they won't work with Nvidia again.
As such if Nvidia are simply crap to work with and behave like boobs, what interest is there in woo'ing them to get them more involved. Also it's a little silly to suggest its all about Nvidia protecting their IP.... because AMD/Intel/everyone else who supports linux has zero interest in protecting their IP... I really don't think so.
Anyway again I see very little specifically to do with saying they are poor in bringing an open driver, just specifically they are the worst manufacturer they have dealt with, and he is FAR from the only person to suggest this.