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NVIDIA RTX 3080Ti to launch in January 2021?

So it's only 12GB now?
So they say.. but who knows.. I have a feeling there will not be a 3080Ti..and if there is one it will basically cost 3090 prices by time you pay for it at retail. Also nVidia may not make a FE model and that way make the AIBs price it as they think and we have seen what AIBs are doing to their MSRP. This way makes nVidia look like the good guys and not have to make a FE with a price tag of £1250+ and probably still make a loss on it as they have done with all the FE models.

look at the prices of cards right now..

6800 is more expensive than a 6800xt msrp
and a 6800xt (£1000 to £1200) is more expensive than a 6900xt msrp, 6900xt is basically 3090 prices and up.

and 3080s are £1000 to £1200

3090 is now £1800 to £2000 for air models and water models are £2250+

so if a 3080ti comes out it will easily be £1300-£1500 by the time retailers sell them and if not more.

3080ti really doesn't fit in right now price wise, see most would rather wait for 3090FE stocks and pay £1400 but again nVidia may do an AMD and have no stocks soon too as AMD really has had no stocks of their models from their store. nVidia already doesnt put many 3080FE stock up as most chips are ending up as 3090s.

Funny how things have changed since last year for gpus, cpus, motherboards and any component needed for PCs, even RAM has shot up and SSD storage.
 
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12GB is what the 3080 should have had since the beginning, would have avoided a load of bickering about VRAM :p

Agree and 12GB would have been enough and really the 3080Ti should come with 16GB and the 3090 24GB. nVidia got greedy and stuck 10GB on the 3080 and said well it's GDDR6X not none X and will be enough because it's faster.. nVidia logic as we have seen and then they add huge amounts of VRAM on the lower end..:rolleyes:
 
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12GB is what the 3080 should have had since the beginning, would have avoided a load of bickering about VRAM :p
Agree and 12GB would have been enough and really the 3080Ti should come with 16GB and the 3090 24GB. nVidia got greedy and stuck 10GB on the 3080 and said well it's GDDR6X not none X and will be enough because it's faster.. nVidia logic as we have seen and then they add huge amounts of VRAM on the lower end..:rolleyes:
I fully agree with you guys, their "flagship" card should have released with more and not less VRAM than the previous generation. However, it's already been established that they went with 10GB on the 3080 because A: cost reasons (stated by Nvidia in the developer interview) and B: There were no 1.5GB GDDR6X modules that allowed them to use smaller VRAM amounts. It was double or nothing and using 20GB on the 3080 would have taken it out of their intended price bracket and used a crapton more of their precious GDDR6X supply.

The lower end 3060/3070 uses regular old GDDR6 which is cheaper and more plentiful than GDDR6X, thats why they can afford to put more on them.

Arguably, going with GDDR6X was the wrong architectural choice given the unimpressive real-world performance benefits over GDDR6, using GDDR6 would have allowed them to put more memory on the 3080 cards and avoid all of this palaver. They could have used GDDR6x only for the 3090 and used that to try to justify the higher price.

It is what it is. Sigh.
 
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Kopite is as reliable as the next clickbait youtuber.. as we have seen now. All guessing by him and guess enough you will end up with one right at some point.

It is weird as awhile back he was coming up with details no one else was / stuff unique enough it couldn't have been guessed at - but lately he has been hedging bets and posting a spread of information much of which is wrong.

I'm surprised nVidia haven't brought a couple more cards into the line up though by now but maybe the current shortages is making things too messy to do it. I'm also surprised the mobile chips look like being detuned 8nm cores as I've quite a decent source for nVidia taping out 7nm mobile Ampere parts - but again maybe the current situation with supply is having an impact especially as TSMC seems pretty tied up.
 
I fully agree with you guys, their "flagship" card should have released with more and not less VRAM than the previous generation. However, it's already been established that they went with 10GB on the 3080 because A: cost reasons (stated by Nvidia in the developer interview) and B: There were no 1.5GB GDDR6X modules that allowed them to use smaller VRAM amounts. It was double or nothing and using 20GB on the 3080 would have taken it out of their intended price bracket and used a crapton more of their previous GDDR6X supply.
Well it would have been 12x 1GB and just had same 384bit bus width as 3090 instead of 10x1GB at 320bit. Obviously this would have increased the cost and nvidia were looking at the best ways to manage cost vs performance :)
 
Kopite is as reliable as the next clickbait youtuber.. as we have seen now. All guessing by him and guess enough you will end up with one right at some point.
He is reliable. The 3080 Ti was scheduled to launch in Jan. EVen Gamersnexus said so. Unfortunately, the existing cards are still out of stock and its in bad taste to launch a new flagship, which is why its now delayed to March. This date is also tentative from NVIDIA assuming stock issues are sorted by then. If they are not, it will be delayed again. If the card release is delayed past May though, its a pointless card considering we are less than a year away from Hopper. The 3080 and 3090 owners won out by buying their cards last year.
 
Well it would have been 12x 1GB and just had same 384bit bus width as 3090 instead of 10x1GB at 320bit. Obviously this would have increased the cost and nvidia were looking at the best ways to manage cost vs performance :)
It would have made the 3090 look even worse value than it already did at launch. Plus, it would possibly have had to use the same enlarged PCB design.
He is reliable. The 3080 Ti was scheduled to launch in Jan. EVen Gamersnexus said so. Unfortunately, the existing cards are still out of stock and its in bad taste to launch a new flagship, which is why its now delayed to March. This date is also tentative from NVIDIA assuming stock issues are sorted by then. If they are not, it will be delayed again. If the card release is delayed past May though, its a pointless card considering we are less than a year away from Hopper. The 3080 and 3090 owners won out by buying their cards last year.

There is no reason (at this point, at least) to think that supply of Hopper will be significantly better than Ampere or that this insane demand for GPU's in general will be satisfied by the time it is released. Then we need to factor in the resurgence of mining and the ever-increasing scourge of bots and scalpers. I wouldn't be surprised if the situation with Hopper supply vs demand is not only once again awful, but that it may be delayed until they have better stock levels than Ampere launched with as they will not want a repeat of this debaucle. However, even with good supply it is likely that there will still be a deficit.

What I have learned from this launch, other than a newfound apathy towards both Nvidia and AMD, is just to order the best card at MSRP the moment it comes out from the largest reputable etailer. Any delay in ordering or chopping or changing orders to other stores is just likely going to delay getting a card.

They need to compete with 6900XT
The 3080 competes with the 6900XT in terms of real-world performance. Better if you factor in RT and DLSS.
 
I know people probably wont understand my opinion, but at this point wouldn't it be potentially better to just wait for next gen cards, or is this just a stupid thought??
I guess it depends what card you currently have or if you have one at all, if I was on a 2070 super / 1080ti then I'd certainly consider waiting rather than paying 50% over what the cards worth which seems to be going rate recently.

Also now that Nvidia and AMD are competing at the top I have a feeling that the next gen cards could really be a big uplift over what we have now and should have better pricing and availability if things are back to a more normal situation by then.
 
I know people probably wont understand my opinion, but at this point wouldn't it be potentially better to just wait for next gen cards, or is this just a stupid thought??

You may have no choice but to wait if the 30XX series supply situation doesn't resolve itself by Summer/Autumn. By that point the new 40XX series will probably be <12 months away but will probably run into its own supply issues :(
 
You may have no choice but to wait if the 30XX series supply situation doesn't resolve itself by Summer/Autumn. By that point the new 40XX series will probably be <12 months away but will probably run into its own supply issues :(
I can’t imagine Nvidia will launch completely new cards in 2022. There will be a refresh and Super or Ti branding with new cards in late 2021 perhaps with new cards in 2023 I’d say.
 
I thought Nvidia confirmed (or at least didnt mention) any 3080Ti release date.

Arent GPU parts for manufacture in short supply and GPUs in high demand hence current prices?

As above, i expect no new cards until 2023
 
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