Based on the trend of the benchmarks on 6800 XT vs 3080 with the former winning at 1440p and 1080p, the 6900 XT should also beat the 3090 at these resolutions. Safe to say NVIDIA has to get out the Ti at the 999 price point ASAP as there is no competitor for AMD in that bracket. All RTX 3090 owners got duped by NVIDIA as the card would be relaunched at a drastically lower price.
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NVIDIA RTX 3080Ti to launch in January 2021?
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The 3080 seems to be beating the 6800XT overall, but with all this stock palaver I am tempted to just wait until next year now to see what the 3080Ti brings and hope that stocks in general stabilize and prices come down.
There's no doubt that Nvidia have an advantage with memory bandwidth at 4k and also with DLSS being so mature and performant relative to when it's not enabled. it looks like DLSS and similar AMD tech will be the only real way of enjoying RT this generation and I think DLSS will really start to be rolled out to a lot more games in 2021.
There's no doubt that Nvidia have an advantage with memory bandwidth at 4k and also with DLSS being so mature and performant relative to when it's not enabled. it looks like DLSS and similar AMD tech will be the only real way of enjoying RT this generation and I think DLSS will really start to be rolled out to a lot more games in 2021.
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Same here - not impressed with the 6800XT pro workload performance either so I think a 3080Ti is in my future.
I can't imagine why anyone would even consider this as a viable alternatiive given the rumours about it. It might have an RRP of £1000 but the RTX3080 has an RRP of £650, this card is going to be £1200 at least.
The RTX3090 has 24GB and is only at best 10% faster than the 3080 the 3090 has a 384 bit memory bus, the Ti is rumoured to be 320 bit
So you're going to pay £350 - £500 more for a card which is unlikely to be more than 7% faster, that's knocking on the door of twice as much money and it makes zero sense.
I hear the comments from people who are concerned about the memory, and I say buy the RTX3080 and then sell it when the next generation comes along, and put to it the cash you saved from not buying the Ti. You can virtually guarantee the RTX4080 is going to eat the RTX3080Ti for breakfast, especially when it has so little performance gain over the stock version. Plus you'll have the latest technology card which will stand the test of time better than the previous generation.
The RTX3090 has 24GB and is only at best 10% faster than the 3080 the 3090 has a 384 bit memory bus, the Ti is rumoured to be 320 bit
So you're going to pay £350 - £500 more for a card which is unlikely to be more than 7% faster, that's knocking on the door of twice as much money and it makes zero sense.
I hear the comments from people who are concerned about the memory, and I say buy the RTX3080 and then sell it when the next generation comes along, and put to it the cash you saved from not buying the Ti. You can virtually guarantee the RTX4080 is going to eat the RTX3080Ti for breakfast, especially when it has so little performance gain over the stock version. Plus you'll have the latest technology card which will stand the test of time better than the previous generation.
Your pricing is complete speculation at this point and the hope is that prices will be a bit more sensible due to the need to compete with AMD 6900xt. Let's see what happens in January, its not like many of us have much of a choice than to wait and see anyway given current stock levels.
Morning.
Speculation true, but I would wager £1200 as realistic. Nvidia would have launched the 3080 @ 2080Ti money had AMD not put the frighteners on with the 6000 series, so its a safe bet that Jensen likes the huge markup and that's his goal.
Drip out the Ampere to counter 6000, see how the 6000 actually lands then counter 'IF' required with a card (Ti) and Nvidia have a doubler win here "We gave you cheap cards aren't Nvidia the caring pro gamers? AND unfortunately you want faster than AMD so here is the choice, but unfortunately it cost more".
msrp 3080Ti £999 throw out a virtual msrp launch then AIB's come along and bang £1200-£1500 or if purchasing at Overclockers £1700.
Don't feel it's a stretch to imagine all this?
A better question, Does Nvidia even need to launch a 3080Ti? The 6800XT in my mind is a great card, but not competitively priced for the 4k performance and software stack currently.
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Nvidia won't rush the 3080ti if it comes at all tbh.
Looking at 6800xt at its reviews its starting to struggle Vs 3070 at 4k , let alone 3080..
6900xt will be struggling too at ,4k. infinity cache or not.
Looking at 6800xt at its reviews its starting to struggle Vs 3070 at 4k , let alone 3080..
6900xt will be struggling too at ,4k. infinity cache or not.
Morning chap. I think the RX6800 series is now a real threat to Nvidias bottom line and if they don't release a 3080Ti with more sensible pricing than the outrageously ludicrous 3090 then they are going to lose a lot of sales. I think £1000 is a realistic price point for a card that will be max 15-20% faster than the 3080 and made on the same PCB and that £1200 would cause it to flop. Nvidia have to price more aggressively now that they have real compeition and MILD/Gamers Nexus also reported the same thing.
The problem mainly arises at 4k with these cards. The 6900 XT was shown with Rage and SAM enabled unlike the 6800 XT, which was shown with both disabled when comparing to an RTX 3080. The 6800 XT was neck and neck with 3080 so based on this, it seems to me that the 6900 XT would underperform the 3090 at 4k by around 5%. NVIDIA has to launch 3080 Ti as the stock 3080 is unable to compete with this although they will no doubt charge a premium for RTX and DLSS as AMD is horrendous at these (do not expect AMD's solution to match nvidia in their first attempt. look how bad DLSS 1.0 was, res upscaling looked better). So realistically £1050 at the very least for this card by the looks of it. IF they reduce performance compared to 3090 so that it trades blows with 6900 XT only, then it would just be in overclocked 3080 territory.
I think NVIDIA did a grave error launching the 3090 at that price. Not going to be easy for them to placate 3090 buyers who paid a boatload to get the 'fastest' so it has to now be slower than that. They also cant get away calling it 'Titan' as it has no Titan optimised drivers for it
Skewed due to stock levels and demand. If you check list prices around half the AIB models were meant to be less than the FE price and half above. Even the most expensive AIB card so far, the Asus Strix 3090 OC has a list price of £1495, less than a £100 more than the FE.
Yer you make a great point fella, Im torn chance a 6800XT with a good cooler from an AIB next week? (though think really we are getting reference cards next week nothing spanky good), wait out an 3080Fe as they seem to come in every now and then because at this point I refuse to pay overinflated prices for cards offering nothing extra (1-3%..).
Or wait till the 3080Ti in Q1... Though Im kinda time limited so might not realistically be an option.
The AIB 6800XT's have different configurations and some are more like the 3080 in that they have 3x DisplayPorts and 1x HDMI 2.1... which I think most people prefer to having a USB-C port.
In the end I don't want to spend over £650 unless I can help it (basically standard 3080 or 6800XT prices), the gains for this gen aren't worth it beyond this price point. If Nvidia had put more VRAM on the 3080 to start with, even 12GB, I would likely already have bought one by now.
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There is no point in dripping out a card it doesnt make money. You need to sell cards in large volumes to make money so that bit doesnt make any sense. Also I would say they cannot stray any north of £1200+ as people will turn around and just get a 3090 as prices might have stabilised a little better by then!
You miss the reason why Nvidia dripped out the 3080, it was never about making money it was about stopping bleeding money/sales it to AMD.
And the 3080Ti will have to best the 3090, and Nvidia will revert to saying the 3090 is for professional use only (Again, flipflop). So yes you will see realistically £1200 cards again.
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I expect a full fat Titan card early next year to take the crown and be on TSMC like the 3080ti will be, the 3090 will sit under the 3080ti and titan above it. NV do this every time.
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It doesn't matter how sensible paper prices are when they are just jacked up by 20% or more by retail stores like this one.
Where did you read that a 3080Ti would be on TSMC? It's basically a jacked up 3080, same PCB etc... I was under the impression it would still be Samsung 8nm.
Yeah, supply needs to increase in general for prices to level out.
The rumours are suggesting Jan 2021 release for 3080 Ti. No way is NVIDIA going to release a card more powerful than 3090 in Jan. It can only happen in Q3/Q4 next year but that leaves the 6900 XT unchallenged for months which NVIDIA simply cannot allow.
Unlikely as NVIDIA needs to compete with 6900 XT right now. If they opt for TSMC, that means no release till Q3 next year. They cannot lose sales at the 999 price point
Really, and what do you base this inside info on that no-one else in the tech rumour business seems to have access to?