This. They named it a 5080 to command a higher price. At the worst it should have been named a 5070 Ti and be £699.
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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion
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This. They named it a 5080 to command a higher price. At the worst it should have been named a 5070 Ti and be £699.
TBF I put all the blame on nvidia, people on 20 and 30 series cards were probably holding off a 4080 purchase for decent gains and better spec with blackwell, until NVIDIA decided to not even bother this gen. Now there is no 4080 stock because they were eol months a go to supply AI demand, they didn't even bother to ramp up blackwell supply in all that time, just goes to show how much contempt they have for gamers.
So now they have no option but the 5080 which some have just bit the bullet and gone with it no matter the price. Can't blame them really.
So now they have no option but the 5080 which some have just bit the bullet and gone with it no matter the price. Can't blame them really.
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Yes that's exactly the thought process I went through in the evening hours of launch day, my card was quoted as March delivery but arrived yesterday, currently playing Spiderman 2 maxed out at 160-200fps with DLSS on quality and frame gen x2, it does 80-90fps without frame gen so I find it very responsive and don't notice any lag.
It's at 56C on 34% fan, it's quieter than my CPU AIO.
I was a massive sceptic of frame gen when it came out on the 40 series, but having tried it I quite like it
I wouldn't have it on for counterstrike or marvel rivals, but then they do 200+ FPS without it anyway
It absolutely wipes the floor with my outgoing 3080.
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If you have to buy something in that range, then 5080 is the best choice. But it's a bad product because it offers very little over the product it replaces (4080 Super).
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As long as you're happy, that's all that matters. I'd be happy with that too.
As for framegen, it's very much game dependent. With some it works well, others tend to have more input lag. On my system, CP2077 runs well with framegen and that with the new transformer model DLSS and path tracing, it's a very nice experience.
As others have said its mostly just the price, and general lack of uplift. Just to put it in context you could have got almost the same performance for the same or less money all last year in the form of the 4080 super. And right now you can get similar performance in 90% of games for ~£800 with a 7900xtx.
The card is fine, the price is not.
but it is faster than the super right? And the price point is the same, which in relative terms makes it cheaper buy a year on.
I agree with it being disappointing from a progress perspective but in terms of value it seems not bad at all?
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Agreed. I'm actually very glad I got a 4080 Super last April now given this release, has turned out to be saving me a few bob until the 5080 refresh.
Got to say that I didn't expect that to happen though, didn't think Nvidia had the brass neck to do it. But of course they do!
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Well value not really as a 4080 Super could have been had a year ago for almost the same performance and price.
But if you've come from 30 series and below, it's not the worst value by any means. You're getting a decent enough uplift and that has value too. It's not just in monetary terms value should be measured.
You can overclock a 4090 too, so while it does help that you can get ~5% more out of the 5080 with an overclock, it doesn't really close the gap.
There's likely to be a better 5080 in the future (Super/Ti), which could also include more VRAM, so unless you absolutely need it, waiting is generally the better option.
AMD might also surprise us (they won't).
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Forgot to answer this bit. Yes, but not by a great deal, certainly not enough for a 4080 user to upgrade.
Not really, the 50 series isn't bad it's just underwhelming.
Without a compelling reason to upgrade, a broken graphics card or something that simply doesn't play the games you want to play how you want at reasonable frame rates, there just doesn't seem much of a reason to buy a 50 series card as unlike in the past they don't offer better value for money.
You're not getting more for a similar or lower price, you're just getting more for more money or the same for the same money.
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A 2080 which was always seen as one of the worst value cards provided around 110% more performance than a 980 while costing 40% more however a 5080 offers around 66% more performance than a 3080 while costing 43% more so its way down on even the 2080, that said its still a solid upgrade so if you don't mind accepting that the value proposition is not there.
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they can't make a 5080ti using the 203 chip as it's already maxed out for the 5080, so it would have to be a cut down 202, which doesn't seem to make financial sense for them to do when they can be stuffing them in to AI cards/5090's. There could be a 5090ti as the 5090 isn't a fully unlocked 202.
N4 is still basically a 5nm process so it's pretty mature by now, yields are probably no that bad. 50 series should have been on 3nm but it's massively delayed and has poor yields still (originally it was supposed to be volume production in 2022 but yields were like 30%)
Like i said though if your current GPU runs the games you want, how you want them to look and at frame rates you find acceptable, then there's not much reason to buy a 50 series because you could've bought a 40 series card for a similar price and got similar performance.
Depending on the 30 series card you're talking about there's even a chance you could've bought a 30/50 series card for a similar price and be getting similar performance.
MSRP the prices are the same but the reality is the 4080S was often available for £900 or even less sometimes while the 5080 is generally above £1200 and sometimes even £1700+
All good points for sure, I am kicking myself for not buying a 40 series but I wasn’t into gaming as much at the time.
So here I am now with no access to 40 series, nor the 50 flagship so taking all of this on balance, 5080 looks like my only option (or join a queue for a few months of waiting)
Anyway, appreciate all the perspectives in this thread.