Oh I didn't even realise they swapped them - I remember seeing the marginal on the left most bar, but I think you're right because I only remember one like-for-like comparison on their initial graphThe original charts clearly show gains over 30% and were later swapped out to the realistic ones in a bait and switch.
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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion
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I might be wrong but isn't one showing with MFG and one without which would explain the difference
Yes. It says so in the footnotes
To be fair, it does say DLSS. I'm not saying I agree with the tactic of coming up with a graph that makes the increase look more favourable than it is, but it's technically true and it's how they get away with it. It's not the first time Nvidia have done this silliness, it won't be the last either. It's not exclusive to Nvidia either, Intel, AMD etc they all do the bs graphs and tech youtubers constantly call them all out for it. Consequently I'm not massively convinced the in the know people are still falling for it, only the mass market who probably aren't the ones expressing disappointment over the 5080 either because they don't actually care enough.The original charts clearly show gains over 30% and were later swapped out to the realistic ones in a bait and switch.
I don't think it's any more deeper than it was just a disappointing improvement. It's hard for anyone with a 40 series card to be that excited by it. The price gouging going on because of lack of stock is just icing on the cake to cause people to have especially strong opinions. The 30 series came after the disappointing 20 series which also suffered from a small improvement and reliance on DLSS to sell when very few games actually had it. So when the ridiculous stock issues/price gouging hit the 30 series, it just didn't hit as hard. Not to mention everyone being stuck in doors makes for good reasoning of buying a GPU...
I don't know about you but I only looked at the left most bar when this came out, because that was the only one where both cards used the same settings, so the Far Cry 6 was what I was expecting as a best case scenario. Though it was an RT benchmark and probably one that was cherry picked to have the highest gains.
I think the current prices make the 5080 decision extremely easy - if I wanted this kind of performance for £1500, I would have bought a 4090 3 years ago. It wasn't for me back then and nothing has changed now
Is this a discord dedicated for this kind of stuff? Where does one find such a channel if don't mind me asking?
I tried to find something similar for the slightest chance to get a 5080 FE, but starting to give up
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Because it's a myth and there was a video floating around on YouTube somewhere that proved it, Someone who had mined on a GPU for a very long time tested the performance and it was exactly the same.
I'd be more worried about buying a used GPU where most have shoved obscene amounts of power through it or over volted it rather than mined on one that's been looked after.
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It's a myth, When one has looked after it and also replaced the crap stock Vram thermal pads and underclocked the Vram also.
I'd rather buy a used GPU that has been mined on than one that has been over powered, Over volted and overclocked.
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As posted previously Nvidia’s original graphs presented at CES showed gains of about 25% to 30%. I mean the ones with Far Cry 6 with RT.
This would have put the 5080 level with a 4090. Then Nvidia swapped those charts out without any announcements. That crap is how Nvidia has operated for years and should be called out.
So for me all of the anti 5000 series posts are aimed at Nvidia. Yes the odd dig at anyone silly enough to pay £1400 - £1500 for a 5080 and (and I stress the AND part) excuse it with a “what choice do I have”. How about not buy it at all to send a message, stick with what you’ve got, or buy one of last gen’s EOL mid range cards to tide you over until the scalping stops.
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And some people won’t buy used GPUs at all. Personally I won’t trust a GPU that has been mined on for months on end (possibly years). Similarly I wont trust one that I find has had a permanent overclock with higher power settings and over volts etc.
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The Far Cry 6 one presented at CES says RT. So implied no DLSS and about 27% faster than a 4080. From existing benchmarks that would put the 5080 just about 4090 level in that game at 4K using the exact same settings. So not great, but at least tangible improvements.
At some point that slide was replaced on Nvidia’s site with the newer 15% faster than RE4 RT slide (no DLSS).
This turned out to be the more accurate slide that somehow didn’t make it on to the CES announcement.
Classic Nvidia trying a bait and switch.