Gets you down to just below MSRP, nice lol. Might suck in future if you ever decide to sell it, but you'd lose more than the £625 partial refund then anyway.
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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion
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Ok, I'm going to give you a worked example.
You bought a 3080 at launch. You usually upgrade when uplift is at least 50%. The 4080 comes out, it's not enough uplift, it's expensive and your 3080 is still doing well. You decide to wait for the 50 series because there is no reason to think it won't give the uplift you want. More and more games are released that don't run well enough on your 3080. The 50 series is released, it's barely better than 40 series. Your choices are to buy and play the games you want OR ignore it and not play the games you want. Could Nvidia release a 5080 Super further down the line that's actually good value? Sure. Unlikely though.
I do think that judging the success or failure of a card at this early stage is pointless. Between low availability, Scalpers, and the usual enthusiast early adopters the first few months are going to look like its amazingly popular. Once everything settles down sales are going to slow down a lot. At that stage we'll see if they are actually selling well or just sitting on shelves.
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I’d still be peeved about spending close to the 5090 FE price but you can still get a card replacement from MSI and save £600 so winning!
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Thats the beauty of it though i still get to have the card replaced by MSI (process already started) so i get a new card to
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That changes things. Great outcome bud.
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What's a good competitor card which is capable of high refreshrate 4k gaming and have good encoders for streaming/video editing?
I don't keep up with competitor cards, so am genuinely curious if there would be an alternative.
I went with the 5090 solely for this reason due to wanting a good media card whilst still being able to push high fps
Couldnt be more chuffed to be honest
5090 Astral burnt
Here's a few links to go with that...
ASUS ROG Astral RTX 5090 catches fire after capacitor blows - VideoCardz.com
ASUS ROG Astral RTX 5090: For those who dare The new ROG Astral series from ASUS is known for two things: how large these graphics cards are and how expensive they are. The RTX 5090 Astral costs more than $2800, if you are even lucky to find it in stock. Speaking of luck, Redditor...
videocardz.com
We will have to see if this was an isolated incident or there are more to come.
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I went through the struggle to buy the 3080 at launch, relying on alerts and missing it multiple times. Finally managed to buy the Zotac Amp Holo 3080 for £825.
Last year decided to use a bonus from work on PC upgrades, bought 7800X3D, 4080 Super, PSU, RAM and motherboard, got a glimpse at better performance, then had to send all of those parts back as faulty. It wasn't clear exactly which parts were faulty, could have been 2-3 or all 5, but I got a full refund on the lot and decided to wait for next gen CPU (upgraded in December) and GPU due to the frustration of such an awful upgrade attempt.
Very happy with the 5800X to 9800X3D upgrade, hopefully I'll be very happy with the 3080 to 5090 upgrade before it burns my house down.
Wow, makes me wish for your scenario lol. Can't see that outcome happening with OCUK though.
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It's definitely the worst launch ever, no questions asked. I posted a tweet the other day which listed all the issues with the launch and it is LONG. Never has such a poor performance uplift been combined with driver issues, fake MSRPs, fire hazards and defective dies.
It's actually impressive how much of a screw up this launch is. AMD could price their cards at £10k and it would still be a better launch.
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When it arrives, can you tell us if it's got the full ROPs or is missing them? I pre-ordered the same card
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On a related note, I am curious to see what used 5090s will be going for in 2-2.5 years when the 6090 is released (assuming it has a better uplift than the 4090 > 5090). I imagine it's going to be a HEFTY drop.
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Impossible to predict. 6090 could be a disaster or brilliant. Given it's a node shrink I imagine it'll be ages away though
With time, games become more demanding as new graphics tech is introduced which means a GPU which was killing it 2 years ago may no longer be good enough for the top end experience today.
I don't think anyone decided not to get a 40 series because they thought it "wasn't good enough" - they probably just couldn't justify an upgrade at the time and/or weren't in a position to buy.
If it helps, here my own personal experience:
When the 4090 came out, I had just moved house and was in the middle of major expenditure on home improvements which meant spending £1600 minimum (4090) on playing video games wasn't a priority at the time. Plus my missus would have killed me. Fast forward to now and a few things have changed:
House stuff is settled
I switched from 3440 to 4k
My 3090 can no longer do what I want it to do.
I am ready to upgrade now and like a lot of people without a crystal ball, held off over the last few months assuming the 50 series would follow the trend we've seen before. Now we know it didn't and that Nvidia are taking full advantage of the market.
I have a few choices:
Don't upgrade - not an option, I play on a PC because console-like graphics aren't good enough for me and I want the best.
Buy a 5090 - lol no way in hell, obvious why.
Buy a second hand 4090 - I would consider it if the prices were sensible but they're not, they're just as ridiculous as the whole 50 series launch despite what some people will try and tell you.
Buy a 5080 - it does what I need it to do and yes it isn't a great product compared to previous cards but on balance it's the only real choice that makes any kind of sense for my own personal needs.
There are far too many variables at play which may influence people to make certain choices so I hope this detailed explanation helps those concerned with how other people choose to spend their money. Additionally, I will, along with all the other people buying 50 series cards, take full responsibility for ruining everything for everyone else.
Hope that helps.
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Honestly, I don't think high-end GPUs drop that much any more when the next generation comes out. There are still 4090s selling for above the original MSRP and the 3090s have held up well to boot. Reinforces the point that selling your old GPU until the new one has been purchased, delivered and thoroughly tested is a mug's game.
This is why I almost always buy stuff from 'the world's largest online retailer' now when I can. I know it's evil giant corporate gubbins, but their customer service is absolutely unbeaten. I've had several wins like this with them.
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Yeah, will be checking as soon as I've got it installed (due to arrive between 3 and 4). Though mine won't really tell you whether yours is likely to have the issue or not. It isn't isolated to Zotac, just a bad batch of dies from Nvidia.
I'm hoping to get 4+ years out of mine, will really depend on how new games that I care about perform over that period though.
I think a big part of that is the issues introduced with both 40 and 50 series. If the stock had been readily available and not prone to issues, older gen may not be selling so well at those prices right now. I agree on the selling point though, my 3080 will be sitting waiting in the box for a while before I'm comfortable selling it.
I mean if that’s what you call hitting the jackpot paying £1874 for a faulty 5090 then I won the Euro millions rollover last year with my 4090 for 1k