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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion
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When you think the 5000 series couldn't get any worse... Nvidia just keeps on giving!
Nvidia's branding is so ******* strong it is unreal.
They are selling what is more like a mid gen refresh with dodgy cables, dodgy marketing and super dodgy pricing. And people are still lining up to throw thier money at them
At this point, I feel like Nvidia could put polished cowpats in a box and people would still buy them
I mean there's having standards and then there's accepting this travesty...
My guess is they knew. But they also know how strong their mindshare is. Those who notice it will get a replacement. My guess is most won't notice.
Their mindshare has been strong since at least 970 GTX days. People were enraged at the 3.5gb issue. What did said people do? Get a refund, add more money on top and get a GTX 980
Don't rule it out. Cowpats are flammable, so they're half way there already.When you think the 5000 series couldn't get any worse... Nvidia just keeps on giving!
At this point, I feel like Nvidia could put polished cowpats in a box and people would still buy them
I mean there's having standards and then there's accepting this travesty...
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Imagine thinking a bunch of nerds wouldn't notice this or would notice it and not care about 5% drop in performance. Have you... met pc gamers? Ever?
Does any one know if any of the their pro/datacentre cards use smaller dies that get fused off? big picture I cant see a few consumer cards being botched being a problem for nvidia. A little like the 970 memory situation but if their data centre cards were to have issues that would be
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If this was the 5060 or something, I might believe that. But I can't believe many people who are dropping £2k or more on a 5090 aren't going to start wondering what's going on if their card is performing 4% behind the crowd in benchmarks. If anything, I'm surprised this took so long to be picked up - unless perhaps the bad batch only came through after launch day?My guess is they knew. But they also know how strong their mindshare is. Those who notice it will get a replacement. My guess is most won't notice.
Their mindshare has been strong since at least 970 GTX days. People were enraged at the 3.5gb issue. What did said people do? Get a refund, add more money on top and get a GTX 980
Conspiracy theory but maybe all this is intentional to deter people from buying the 50 series so they can shift more production to AI.Nvidia's branding is so ******* strong it is unreal.
They are selling what is more like a mid gen refresh with dodgy cables, dodgy marketing and super dodgy pricing. And people are still lining up to throw thier money at them
Rubbish performance uplift and power scaling, barely any stock and Fake MSRP with price performance on par or sometimes even worse than the past couple of years, melting cables, multiple cards missing ROPs over different class die’s which wouldn’t indicate just a bad batch. Removal of the optical flow accelerator which means a downgrade to image quality with frame gen.
If this was an AMD product they would get be getting slaughtered for incompetence.
When you think the 5000 series couldn't get any worse... Nvidia just keeps on giving!
At this point, I feel like Nvidia could put polished cowpats in a box and people would still buy them
I mean there's having standards and then there's accepting this travesty...
I am in the process of buying a ASUS 5070 Ti Matrix for £1999. I am just getting the retailer to confirm that it has the correct rops.
Someone will actually believe this
I have, bet you ain't many though based on what you just said. Many buying these cards are clueless.
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They will have known. All GPU dies go through extensive testing. If you validation testing doesn't pick up the fact the GPU is performing 10% worse than expected, then something is very very very wrong.
And to the person in this thread who told me the 50 series only need a week or two of testing because it is unchanged from the 40 series.... Yea, you don't look so smart now.
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It's not really Nvidia getting shafted here though is it? It's poor ROP-less timmy that has to faff around sending his card back and waiting 6 months for a replacement.
God knows how many of these cards are just chilling inside prebuilts owned by less technologically literate people.
Anyone buying one of these second hand in the future is going to need to demand a GPU-Z screenshot with a loaf of Hovis and today's paper in the shot.
And you have some in the RDNA4 upset at why shouldn't AMD be charging £700+ for the 9070XT.
Bizarre or what
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Would be hilarious if they do.
If they were being serious about market share $550 should be the price.
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I sure do look forward to selling a GPU in future - not only will you get all the usual dumb questions but now it's going to be "How many rops mate?"