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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion


Nitefly. This will be of interest. Think I will keep my 8 week old PSU 3.0 and get the new 3.1 H++ cable, which appearscto have a better leaf spring design in addition to all the othe 2 x 6 part. What do you reckon guys, 'new' H++ cable, or new cable and new power supply (again).
 
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Only novices don't undervolt and OC at the same time :p

Jokes aside, you can see the fps is 114fps, which is capped by me, indicated by the sub 100% GPU utilisation.

Uncapped things look a little different:

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Ahh that's more like it! Can your card do +33% PL? :p

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5070ti's affected by the missing ROPs run 11% slower

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GeForce RTX 5070 Ti with missing ROPs offers up to 11% lower performance in synthetic tests - VideoCardz.com

RTX 5070 Ti 88 ROP edition is up to 11% slower NVIDIA launched its third RTX 50 card this week, and it appears that some cards that were already sold are immediately eligible for a replacement. As reported earlier, NVIDIA confirmed a manufacturing anomaly that resulted in incorrect spec...
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What surprised me about this saga is just how much ROPs affect a game's framerate, just removing a handful has a significant impact
 
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Vito said:

Nitefly. This will be of interest. Think I will keep my 8 week old PSU 3.0 and get the new 3.1 H++ cable, which appearscto have a better leaf spring design in addition to all the othe 2 x 6 part. What do you reckon guys, 'new' H++ cable, or new cable and new power supply (again).
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Firstly, J2C is a derp.

Secondly, you have to be very careful as cable companies are trying to cash in on people's confusion to sell them new cables. According to the spec, there are not 2 types of cable. 12v-2x6 changes only affects the ports on the GPU and the PSU. NOT the cable. Cablemod and MODDIY however made some small tweaks to their existing 12VHPWR cable (nothing to do with the spec, their own changes) and then started selling that new one as a '12v-2x6' cable. They also both told people they recommend the '12v-2x6' cable for 50 series cards.

There are however several different pin types from different manufacturers of connectors and if you bought a bunch of these cables you would probably see a random assortment of each. Different people say different ones are better. I am 99% sure though that the specification does NOT recommend one over the other.

Is it worth getting an ATX 3.1 PSU for the new ports? No one can confidently say but it's looking probabl those changes achieved diddly squat in resolving the melting issue. All they do is confirm the cable is seated correctly, not that the pins are making contact. Hilariously though, in that J2C video you can see they don't really even achieve that. To quote Der8auer "The sense pins are only sensing themselves therefore are sensless".

Also, even if we do determine that some cables are better than others, it doesn't really mean much. The lack of safety measures still means a flawed cable fails badly and causes lots of expensive damage/possibly a fire risk.

TLDR; just wait it out and see what happens.
 
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Firstly, J2C is a derp.

Secondly, you have to be very careful as cable companies are trying to cash in on people's confusion to sell them new cables. According to the spec, there are not 2 types of cable. 12v-2x6 changes only affects the ports on the GPU and the PSU. NOT the cable. Cablemod and MODDIY however made some small tweaks to their existing 12VHPWR cable (nothing to do with the spec, their own changes) and then started selling that new one as a '12v-2x6' cable. They also both told people they recommend the '12v-2x6' cable for 50 series cards.

There are however several different pin types from different manufacturers of connectors and if you bought a bunch of these cables you would probably see a random assortment of each. Different people say different ones are better. I am 99% sure though that the specification does NOT recommend one over the other.

Is it worth getting an ATX 3.1 PSU for the new ports? No one can confidently say but it's looking probabl those changes achieved diddly squat in resolving the melting issue. All they do is confirm the cable is seated correctly, not that the pins are making contact. Hilariously though, in that J2C video you can see they don't really even achieve that. To quote Der8auer "The sense pins are only sensing themselves therefore are sensless".

Also, even if we do determine that some cables are better than others, it doesn't really mean much. The lack of safety measures still means a flawed cable fails badly and causes lots of expensive damage/possibly a fire risk.

TLDR; just wait it out and see what happens.
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Ok, thanks for that. Im confident cables are seated correctly.
 
Just plug the cable in and chill. If it burns then it burns and rma it, it's better than stressing everyday while you stare at the cable looking for smoke
 
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ASUS GeForce RTX 5070 Ti TUF OC Review

The ASUS GeForce RTX 5070 Ti TUF OC comes with a fantastic all-metal cooling solution that is built like a tank. During testing in our review, the card ran whisper-quiet at full load with the Quiet BIOS, and super cool with the default BIOS. The only problem is the high price of $1000.
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£1000 5070ti gets the Editor's Choice award. Man, I am so disappointed in so much of the tech industry.

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ASUS GeForce RTX 5070 Ti TUF OC Review

The ASUS GeForce RTX 5070 Ti TUF OC comes with a fantastic all-metal cooling solution that is built like a tank. During testing in our review, the card ran whisper-quiet at full load with the Quiet BIOS, and super cool with the default BIOS. The only problem is the high price of $1000.
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£1000 5070ti gets the Editor's Choice award. Man, I am so disappointed in so much of the tech industry.

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I don't agree with some funky stuff you say, but completely agreed here. TPU should be ashamed of themselves imo.

I used to visit their site daily for many years. But they went downhill imo.
 
Nvidia's branding is so ******* strong it is unreal.

They are selling what is more like a mid gen refresh with dodgy cables, dodgy marketing and super dodgy pricing. And people are still lining up to throw thier money at them :D
 
Theory is that the issue is due to the way cores were fused off. They tried to fuse off parts of multiple GPCs instead of the entire cluster. You can see this in the Blackwell architecture white paper. They probably just fused off something they shouldn't have and realised after a bunch of chips were already manufactured and instead of recalling everything Nvidia made an active decision to let it go and hope no one notices
 
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