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NVIDIA RTX 50 SERIES - Technical/General Discussion

9070 probably better
Which is why I don't understand why AMD didn't go lower price and go $500 for the 9070

AMD missed a chance to be comprehensively better

The 9070 is a failed 9070xt and from what I've read AMD have really good yields on the 9070xt, so I get why they didn't go cheaper not much point if you won't have a good supply if your production is good.

Theres just no point ruining a 9070xt to make a 9070 when you can have good supply.

I get it, it's a silly price buy it also get why AMD are doing this if what I read about yields is true.

The 5070 is already DOA really so good job the don't have any supply.
 
The 4070 super RRP was $599 I believe.

So basically it's a $50 price drop over a year later.

Awful.
 
it is pants... but IF i was in the market and that was how much money i had i would still buy a 5070 over a 4070 super.

aside from it being a bit cheaper, its the newer silicon so will get longer support and going forward driver updates should help the new card over the old one.

I am not excusing it at all, i think back to when the x070 of a new generation would trade blows with the top tier card of the previous gen (770 vs 680, 970 vs 780ti, 1070 vs 980ti ) and with a much better RRP but i dont suppose we will get there again
 
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it is pants... but IF i was in the market and that was how much money i had i would still buy a 5070 over a 4070 super.

aside from it being a bit cheaper, its the newer silicon so will get longer support and going forward driver updates should help the new card over the old one.

I am not excusing it at all, i think back to when the x070 of a new generation would trade blows with the top tier card of the previous gen (770 vs 680, 970 vs 780ti, 1070 vs 980ti ) but i dont suppose we will get there again
the AMD 9070xt is 40-60% faster than the cards it replaces 7800xt and 7900 gre
 
it is pants... but IF i was in the market and that was how much money i had i would still buy a 5070 over a 4070 super.

aside from it being a bit cheaper, its the newer silicon so will get longer support and going forward driver updates should help the new card over the old one.

....well obviously

However it's over a year since the 4070 super was released so it's basically a $50 price drop for the same performance + some better frame gen software.
 
the AMD 9070xt is 40-60% faster than the cards it replaces 7800xt and 7900 gre
that is good to know. it has been a long time since i looked at AMD. In principle i would go with team red but there has always been a blocker, be it physX, better vr performance, and last time I bought a card better ray tracing and superior mining.

if i was in the market i would need to do my homework more, however my limited understanding (and i admit it is limited) outside of raw horse power the nvidia cards still appear to have the better feature set
 
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The 9070 is a failed 9070xt and from what I've read AMD have really good yields on the 9070xt, so I get why they didn't go cheaper not much point if you won't have a good supply if your production is good.

Theres just no point ruining a 9070xt to make a 9070 when you can have good supply.

I get it, it's a silly price buy it also get why AMD are doing this if what I read about yields is true.

The 5070 is already DOA really so good job the don't have any supply.

Yeah, but their market share is like 10%.

At that point you do whatever you can to get that to change.
 
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