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NVIDIA Volta with GDDR6 in early 2018?

justbeingmiko said:
Gaming at 3440x1440 and planning to stay there for a long time. The 1080 just about meets the 100 fps for refresh rate but I do need to drop the settings on a few titles. Ideally I want that little bit of headroom to cover Project Cars 2 and any other AAA titles that come in the next year. I am kinda abit fed up of waiting for cards to come and not just enjoying the games today. I waited for ages for the Vega cards but gave up after a year of waiting and bought the 1080. A single month later, the ti came out....typical :)

So, now I wonder if I should get rid of the 1080 and replace with a ti and just stop watching potential cards for the next year or so and just enjoy gaming :)
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For 3440x1440 you will notice the improvement but if you're happy at the moment it may be wise to just hold on and get a much bigger increase next year.
 
justbeingmiko said:
Gaming at 3440x1440 and planning to stay there for a long time. The 1080 just about meets the 100 fps for refresh rate but I do need to drop the settings on a few titles. Ideally I want that little bit of headroom to cover Project Cars 2 and any other AAA titles that come in the next year. I am kinda abit fed up of waiting for cards to come and not just enjoying the games today. I waited for ages for the Vega cards but gave up after a year of waiting and bought the 1080. A single month later, the ti came out....typical :)

So, now I wonder if I should get rid of the 1080 and replace with a ti and just stop watching potential cards for the next year or so and just enjoy gaming :)
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Your call. I think you have the resolution to warrant it. But it's up to you. your money. Neither right or wrong. Doubt Volta for gamers is coming before the end of the year.
 
opethdisciple said:
Precisely. Don't see the point buy a titan, when you can go ti to ti for less money and same performance.
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But then why not go for xx70 to xx70? The 1070 is essentially like a Titan from the previous generation. It costs a lot less, even than Ti's and runs on less power.

It basically comes down to money. If you want the best asap, then you go Titan. If you can wait around 7 months, you get the same performance for less in the form of a Ti. If you can wait another 7 or so months you get similar performance xx70 much cheaper again, but the difference being is this time it is on a new architecture and runs cooler and quieter. So yeah, all about the money :p

If you got the money, can go from Titan to Titan and will always have the best performance available.
 
Thanks @Ayahuasca and @opethdisciple I am sorely tempted - the resell value of the 1080 is still high so I will not lose much at all - Off I go to research which 1080ti to get. Then I can forget cards and game until end of next year, where we might have more visibility of newer models.

Appreciate your input.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Too bad the highest end card doesn't come first at a non insane price anymore, guess greed took hold at some point..
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If people willing to pay, it will exist. Next Titan maybe $1500 or more now that they have unlocked their compute stuff on it.

For me the sweet spot is xx70 to xx70 as you get it at the start of a new architecture. But I can see why a lot of people like going from Ti to Ti also :)

I was very happy with my 1070. The AMP Extreme cooling was so good that there is no need for water cooling or anything, even OC'd the fan noise was very little relative to every other card I have had. Looking forward to Volta xx70.
 
I guess it will be guessing, but do we think the 1170 will give 1080 ti performance this time round? I know the 1070 matches the 980 ti and the 1060 matches the 980, but looking at the 700 to 900 leap, 900 to 1000 series was a huge leap.

I highly doubt the 1160 will match the 1080, I reckon it be between 1070 - 1080 ish performance and the 1170 be between the 1080 to 1080 ti.

But who knows. I am still rocking a gtx 980 I got last September so will only upgrade when the 11 series comes out
 
charlief said:
I guess it will be guessing, but do we think the 1170 will give 1080 ti performance this time round? I know the 1070 matches the 980 ti and the 1060 matches the 980, but looking at the 700 to 900 leap, 900 to 1000 series was a huge leap.

I highly doubt the 1160 will match the 1080, I reckon it be between 1070 - 1080 ish performance and the 1170 be between he 1080 to 1080 ti but not exceed it.
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It all depends on how good Volta is I suppose. But if xx70 cannot match 1080Ti or be close, it will be disappointing. I do not like the xx80 range as they are not value for money. On release they cost Ti moneys and then 6-7 months later when Ti comes out they drop in value a lot.

There are many games I want to play coming out next year, so I could even go for a Titan myself :p
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Too bad the highest end card doesn't come first at a non insane price anymore, guess greed took hold at some point..
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That's what's use to happen until Kepler.

I always just got the most powerful card of each Gen, that I could afford.

Still have a perfectly working reference gtx 580 downstairs. Even runs SuperPostion at medium for around 28 fps.

Shame they don't do that anymore, although it makes business sense for them.
 
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justbeingmiko said:
Gaming at 3440x1440 and planning to stay there for a long time. The 1080 just about meets the 100 fps for refresh rate but I do need to drop the settings on a few titles. Ideally I want that little bit of headroom to cover Project Cars 2 and any other AAA titles that come in the next year. I am kinda abit fed up of waiting for cards to come and not just enjoying the games today. I waited for ages for the Vega cards but gave up after a year of waiting and bought the 1080. A single month later, the ti came out....typical :)

So, now I wonder if I should get rid of the 1080 and replace with a ti and just stop watching potential cards for the next year or so and just enjoy gaming :)
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I went from a 1080 to a 1080Ti with purchasing a 3440x1440 monitor and lets me turn up the candy and play very smoothly. If money isn't a worry, it is a decent upgrade.
 
charlief said:
I guess it will be guessing, but do we think the 1170 will give 1080 ti performance this time round? I know the 1070 matches the 980 ti and the 1060 matches the 980, but looking at the 700 to 900 leap, 900 to 1000 series was a huge leap.

I highly doubt the 1160 will match the 1080, I reckon it be between 1070 - 1080 ish performance and the 1170 be between the 1080 to 1080 ti.

But who knows. I am still rocking a gtx 980 I got last September so will only upgrade when the 11 series comes out
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I'm pretty sure 1170 won't give 1080Ti performance in most games. GV100 vs GP100 PciE was 40% more speed for GV100. I wouldn't expect more for smaller voltas. So a 1180 should beat a 1080Ti by 5-10% and 1170 will be slower. But Volta should hopefully have 2xFP16 speed as has Vega. In games which implement this i would expect 1080TI speed with 1170.
 
FoxEye said:
And it's not like the previous Ti will be struggling at that point. Ti to Ti does make a lot of sense.
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I feel with a 1080Ti and a 1440p gsync monitor I can keep upgrading to at Ti as it reaches EOL and is at its cheapest. That's my plan anyway. Eventually, when 4k 100~ fps become viable on single cards I'll upgrade my monitor.
 
charlief said:
I guess it will be guessing, but do we think the 1170 will give 1080 ti performance this time round? I know the 1070 matches the 980 ti and the 1060 matches the 980, but looking at the 700 to 900 leap, 900 to 1000 series was a huge leap.
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That will be up to architectural changes.
This time there isn't major buff from manufacturing process like between Maxwell and Pascal.
"12nm" is basically just renamed tweaked current node, just like Intel has been tweaking and renaming its CPUs.

So if Nvidia focuses to improving compute features and implementing all DX12 stuff performance increase might not be that big.


GTiPUG said:
Anyone seen this?
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gp..._gpus_are_expected_to_release_in_march_2018/1
Reliable?
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Nvidia certainly has time to keep cashing on current (yearl old) generation.
As another thing like stated in there GDDR6 likely won't be having much of availability soon.
 
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