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They could start by airlines charging by having the passenger and their bags being weighed then paying by the kg.
Nothing worse than getting moaned at for your bag being over by a kg then the person next to you clearly needs two seats.
I'm fine with the NHS treating them but we shouldn't act like being obese is okay.
All this big is beautiful rubbish it's not big is horrendous.
Nothing worse than getting moaned at for your bag being over by a kg then the person next to you clearly needs two seats.
I'm fine with the NHS treating them but we shouldn't act like being obese is okay.
All this big is beautiful rubbish it's not big is horrendous.
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Maybe its just a thing that women in their 60s / 70s did ~20 years ago?!
I remember the amount of clotted cream she would smear on scones and the huge blob she would put in every tea or coffee she had along with sugar. Guess its better than mountains of fizzy drinks and energy drinks you usually see obese plebs buying in home bargains / B&M!
I think it would be a fantastic idea for doctors to stop prescribing pills to people and instead prescrbe a diet and exerise plan. If people don't stick it it, simple, they die. I see drugs like gaviscon and statins as a cop out for poor health lifestyle - usually too much alcohol and not enough exercise and healthy food.
Personally, i'm by no means a saint and do indulge in alcohol binges and terrible takeaways every now and again. I pay the price with bad heart burn and take gaviscon when its really bad. If that wasnt there, im sure I would think twice about drinking that extra 2 / 3 pints and having a nasty takeaway to finish the night off
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I'm not fat so why do I have to pay that tax?
A big problem is telling people they need to change and berating them, when they (for whatever reason) don't want to or feel they can't. Further berating just makes them buckle down, sometimes out of spite, sometimes because it makes them feel even worse about themselves and they just continue down a vicious cycle. They need to reach that realisation themselves, which means they may need to support to help them reach a firm decision to do something about their health. I've been through that myself, one morning I woke up and just decided to start swimming to lose weight. I can't tell you what made me come to that realisation on that particular morning, or why I did, I just had a huge change in attitude towards myself and I've reaped the benefits since. I didn't have any help to do it (and I didn't ever seek it), but some people need that help and would seek it out.
I do agree that it's unfortunate that such an avoidable problem (obesity) puts extra strain on the NHS. But they pay tax on what they consume, and we have a sugar tax now. However where do you stop adding "surcharges" for avoidable illness or injury that puts strain on the NHS? What about a sportsman or woman who breaks something. Or an alcoholic, or someone self harming? Smokers? People with skin cancer from feeling the need to turn themselves into a burnt crisp every year? The NHS isn't perfect but the core tenet of universal care is something we should never want to take away. You never know when someone close to you will need it.
I'm somewhat sick and tired of the fat acceptance movement though. Lying to people that they are healthy... that's something I find darkly Machiavellian. I don't agree with berating people but cold, honest truth is sometimes necessary.
I do agree that it's unfortunate that such an avoidable problem (obesity) puts extra strain on the NHS. But they pay tax on what they consume, and we have a sugar tax now. However where do you stop adding "surcharges" for avoidable illness or injury that puts strain on the NHS? What about a sportsman or woman who breaks something. Or an alcoholic, or someone self harming? Smokers? People with skin cancer from feeling the need to turn themselves into a burnt crisp every year? The NHS isn't perfect but the core tenet of universal care is something we should never want to take away. You never know when someone close to you will need it.
I'm somewhat sick and tired of the fat acceptance movement though. Lying to people that they are healthy... that's something I find darkly Machiavellian. I don't agree with berating people but cold, honest truth is sometimes necessary.
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I'm well aware of the sugar tax, however consuming sugar does not quite equal fat unhealthy people. I can consume some sugar whilst leading a very healthy lifestyle. Not sure I agree with having to pay more tax for that privilege.
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You don't have to pay it.
I don't, how do I buy full sugar fizzy drinks without paying it?
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Which drinks actually still have sugar in them these days? they all tend to have that fake sweetener in them now, spell it for me...Saccarin?
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Because, it's a tax. That's how it works.
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Don't buy it? In all seriousness though, we all end up paying for the 'greater good' through taxes. I'm very much against drug use and alcohol consumption yet I pay towards the NHS which then uses the money to deal with alcohol related stupidity (amongst other things of course).
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I'm not sure it's avoidable problem. The food most of us have access to is junk. Cheap food is junk. Expensive food is more pre-fabricated and junky than it used to be 20, 30, 40 years ago. Food sold as healthy option is just as junky as anything else. Even organic food doesn't look or taste the same as it used to, because it's mass produced in the same all 24/7 all year round greenhouses.
It's all junk and we all know it. Supermarket meals that only contain 15% of meat in the meat portion of the meal. Tomatoes that have to be sold with vine to resemble smell of tomatoes. Frozen pizzas that contain more sugar in dough than flower. Carrots than no longer have sweet core, but have to be sweetened up with syrups for your veggie tray. Broccoli and cauliflower that smell of sulfides from fertiliser when cooked. Junk. Kids that grow up eating sugar ketchup on everything to help cardboard taste to their 5 a day vegetables. Junk that creates hormonal issues and affects your body, breaks your DNA. Yes, there is a constant percentage of fatties that do "eat too many pies", but you'll probably find that most people classed as obese these days don't eat THAT much more than active, healthy person. They just eat junk. Your body doesn't react to it as violently as theirs and that's all. Making that junk more expensive with taxes is not a viable option. Someone will just come up with different cheap junk to fill the gaping hole in the market. Sugar tax on drinks for example. Is coloured water with aspartame pretending to be sugar any better for your body? Doesn't your body react with insuline flood afterwards? Sweet drinks are more expensive, more people drink "0 calorie" option then get cravings. Doesn't seem to work.
Most of these people will spend lifetime chasing unachievable weight targets on diets and fasting, through endless yo-yo's - loosing some weight, gaining some weight. But on the other side of the "lost one stone" rainbow is the same junk. That will make them fat again.
Regulate food industry. We are not going back to the days when housewives selected fresh produce from farmers market to cook home meals for their hard working husbands. Farmers market stands sell produce from crates with "made in somehwre abroad" anyway. We are going to eat more and more ready to eat prepped meals with each decade. Regulate the makers of that food. It's the only way.
It's all junk and we all know it. Supermarket meals that only contain 15% of meat in the meat portion of the meal. Tomatoes that have to be sold with vine to resemble smell of tomatoes. Frozen pizzas that contain more sugar in dough than flower. Carrots than no longer have sweet core, but have to be sweetened up with syrups for your veggie tray. Broccoli and cauliflower that smell of sulfides from fertiliser when cooked. Junk. Kids that grow up eating sugar ketchup on everything to help cardboard taste to their 5 a day vegetables. Junk that creates hormonal issues and affects your body, breaks your DNA. Yes, there is a constant percentage of fatties that do "eat too many pies", but you'll probably find that most people classed as obese these days don't eat THAT much more than active, healthy person. They just eat junk. Your body doesn't react to it as violently as theirs and that's all. Making that junk more expensive with taxes is not a viable option. Someone will just come up with different cheap junk to fill the gaping hole in the market. Sugar tax on drinks for example. Is coloured water with aspartame pretending to be sugar any better for your body? Doesn't your body react with insuline flood afterwards? Sweet drinks are more expensive, more people drink "0 calorie" option then get cravings. Doesn't seem to work.
Most of these people will spend lifetime chasing unachievable weight targets on diets and fasting, through endless yo-yo's - loosing some weight, gaining some weight. But on the other side of the "lost one stone" rainbow is the same junk. That will make them fat again.
Regulate food industry. We are not going back to the days when housewives selected fresh produce from farmers market to cook home meals for their hard working husbands. Farmers market stands sell produce from crates with "made in somehwre abroad" anyway. We are going to eat more and more ready to eat prepped meals with each decade. Regulate the makers of that food. It's the only way.
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I didn't read all that....so buying chicken and rice and fresh veg or just meat (dead animal of your choice ) is pre fabricated junk then...
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I always believed you can eat 2500 calories of whatever crap fits on your fork per day but if you only burn 1500 you will get an increased gravitational pull.
Isnt it surely better to promote an active lifestyle rather than just tackle "bad" food?
Why am I engaging in this I'm fat AF
Ultimately better food and lifestyle..... Obviously
Isnt it surely better to promote an active lifestyle rather than just tackle "bad" food?
Why am I engaging in this I'm fat AF
Ultimately better food and lifestyle..... Obviously
The rule of thumb is something like:
1. Sleep
2. Diet
3. Exercise
Nail 1 and 2, and 3 becomes less of a big deal - simply staying active is enough for the vast majority (house work, going shopping, whatever).
Your body really is a temple when it comes to food.
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