Obesity...

[Reality|Bites]

well eating it in excess it as with most things huh? the tipping point with fat is lower than everything else isn't it, being fat is unhealthy i'm sure no one would disagree.
Salt Fat and what have you is fine in small amounts no one is saying otherwise, i'm not. but we're talking mince aren't we

 

[dlockers]

well eating it in excess it as with most things huh? the tipping point with fat is lower than everything else isn't it, being fat is unhealthy i'm sure no one would disagree.
Salt Fat and what have you is fine in small amounts no one is saying otherwise, i'm not. but we're talking mince aren't we

Fat isn't as unhealthy as it sounds by the name. Refined carbs are unhealthy. Chemical substitutes for sugar are unhealthy. I'd rather a fatty steak than a bowl of frosties, for example.

 

[Reality|Bites]

the diet pyramid from south park, due to gluten stuff...just turn that pyramid upside down huh

 

[DeliciousStorage]

Those who are clinically obese should be prevented from buying unhealthy food, i.e. blocked somehow at point of sale. It is too easy for them to over eat and make wrong decisions.

That's a very silly idea, how would you even know at the point of sale if someone is clinically obese? Are you suggesting obesity passports with regular mandatory weigh ins?

 

[Reality|Bites]

how would you know? for real? if the waist fold droops over the waist band?

 

[Hodders]

Just make all isles in supermarkets cul-de-sacs. Then put a moving walkway in each Isle. All the unhealthy food is at the far end meaning you have to walk non stop for the equivalent of a mile to get at it!

Genius I tell you.

 

[Reality|Bites]

to many young ones yet to experience the school pal shift huh? still stuck with everyone massaging egos? just you wait lol it'll happen to most of you

 

[malachi]

Its only going to get worse unfortunately, we have plenty of 24 hr gyms, probably the most gyms we had ever but type 2 diabetes rates are rising.

Its just easy to sit there, get lazy and eat. But you still need self discipline to not over eat.

 

[tom_e]

how would you know? for real? if the waist fold droops over the waist band?

I'm morbidly obese, there's nothing drooping over my waist band

 

[200sols]

Since fat was demonised obesity and associated health problems has skyrocketed. I don't think it is a coincidence myself. Ultra processed foods are another big issue.

 

[Freakbro]

Which ties in nicely with the BBC documentary coming by the TV doctor Chris van Tulleken where he at junk food for a month

A new BBC documentary will show just what impact eating ultra-processed food could be having on our bodies.

BBC doctor Chris van Tulleken will premiere how he managed to put on a stone in 28 days.

He switched to a diet of 80 per cent ultra processed food and his experiment, now being used for a clinical study, shows a clear link between processed food and rapid weight gain.

A new BBC documentary will show the effects of processed food where he claims to have got piles, erectile dysfunction and anxiety after eating a month of processed food.

He says there is barely any research on the subject thanks to the powerful food manufacturers.

They lobby hard against any proposed government measures which might put off consumers – and hit their profits, reports the Mirror.

“The scandal is the failure of regulation,” he says. “It’s because the foods that we eat are made by only 10 companies, almost no matter what you eat.

"And those companies are very powerful and they lobby to modify nutritional guidelines, they sit on advisory committees and they fund all of nutritional science."

Dr Chris, who has two young children, finds that many of these foods have added substances that give “hyper-palatability” to make human brains actively crave more - which leads to over-eating. He says the real problem lies not in the ingredients but in what is added during processing.

“We’re worrying about salt, and trans fat and sugar and meanwhile, this thing is staring us in the face with the highly-engineered food. It is being designed to drive overeating, because the only way that food companies can grow and make money is by selling
"We have enough food, so they have to overfeed us.”

 

[adam cool dude]

Not surprised look at the amount/variations of junk food you can buy in shops, chocolate , fizzy drinks. Thats before mentioning the likes of deliveroo, just eat ect. Not good..

Pretty much this. I would say I am pretty traditional in the sense as I go to work with a pack up of sandwiches and have a hot cooked dinner when I come home. I was chatting with a friend at work who gave me an uber eat voucher as I have never used the app before. £10 off for £15 minimum spend.

What I got for £5 and the ease of not having to prepare or washup after I can see where the temptation is in today's busy lifestyle.

 

[Bassmansam]

Refined carbs are the devil not fat necessarily.

 

[tom_e]

A visit to the chippy or getting a takeaway used to be a treat when I was a kid i.e. birthdays or if we'd been out for the day and were getting home late.

These days it's just a normal part of the week for a lot of people, the change in mindset in the 15 years since I left home has been massive.

 

[fez]

Since fat was demonised obesity and associated health problems has skyrocketed. I don't think it is a coincidence myself. Ultra processed foods are another big issue.

Its not. I'm sure it was a push from the diet industry to be able to sell "low fat" foods as diet food when the reality is that they are not good for you. Most people in this country have a really unhealthy relationship with food. Women in particular. I would say that is due to diet culture and the psychology surrounding it. "Oooh you deserve a naughty treat" or "That little snack to keep you going and only 79 calories".

A visit to the chippy or getting a takeaway used to be a treat when I was a kid i.e. birthdays or if we'd been out for the day and were getting home late.

These days it's just a normal part of the week for a lot of people, the change in mindset in the 15 years since I left home has been massive.

I would love to know how many takeaways the average household eats a month. We probably get 2 at most. I simply don't know how people afford it. Its probably at least 4x the cost of cooking yourself and thats if you get the cheapest thing going. Me and my partner earn good money but we couldn't afford to eat takeaway 2-3 times a week like some people.

 

[Bassmansam]

Its not. I'm sure it was a push from the diet industry to be able to sell "low fat" foods as diet food when the reality is that they are not good for you. Most people in this country have a really unhealthy relationship with food. Women in particular. I would say that is due to diet culture and the psychology surrounding it. "Oooh you deserve a naughty treat" or "That little snack to keep you going and only 79 calories".



I would love to know how many takeaways the average household eats a month. We probably get 2 at most. I simply don't know how people afford it. Its probably at least 4x the cost of cooking yourself and thats if you get the cheapest thing going. Me and my partner earn good money but we couldn't afford to eat takeaway 2-3 times a week like some people.

Probably can't afford it because you live in Sidcup lol, house prices are crazy there.

 

[MikeTheNative]

You can't make people loose weight. You need to encourage them to have a healthy lifestyle, which includes a balanced diet and exercise. If they don't want to change then there's no chance.
I also think the 'can't afford to eat healthy' is a load of crap pedalled by people who just can't be bothered to cook. Rice, lentils, frozen veg, beans etc. is stuff that is cheap but you need to do slightly more than stick it in the oven like a frozen lasagne.

 

[potatolord]

A visit to the chippy or getting a takeaway used to be a treat when I was a kid i.e. birthdays or if we'd been out for the day and were getting home late.

These days it's just a normal part of the week for a lot of people, the change in mindset in the 15 years since I left home has been massive.

It would be interesting to see the correlation between the number of takeaways in an area and obesity rates.

 

[Columbo]

The NHS should be there for the medical treatment of those who are unable to help themselves. I would extend that to easily preventable conditions such as obesity.

Not that easy is it....
I've had 21 operations under GA due to sporting / activity related activities, including a couple of major bone grafts. They were easily preventable in that I had I not been on the bike I fell off or had I not broken my femur running then I wouldn't have needed the treatment.

My brother who is 47 and clinically obsese has cost the NHS far far less than I have at this point, I've essentially rinsed the NHS for treatment and he's been to A&E twice for 2 DIY related incidents.
Where do you draw the line? Are you suggesting that he doesn't get a cut in hand fixed because he's too fat but it's ok for me to receive A* treatment because I get on a bike?

 

[200sols]

You can't make people loose weight. You need to encourage them to have a healthy lifestyle, which includes a balanced diet and exercise. If they don't want to change then there's no chance.
I also think the 'can't afford to eat healthy' is a load of crap pedalled by people who just can't be bothered to cook. Rice, lentils, frozen veg, beans etc. is stuff that is cheap but you need to do slightly more than stick it in the oven like a frozen lasagne.

It is about what is easy and convenient. It is far easier to buy some processed food for many people. Generally speaking humans are lazy, they will go for whatever is easiest. Also ultra processed food is designed to get you addicted, I dont know how we move away from this without some sort of restrictions on those types of foods.