OCUK Binned i7 7700k's - Only 4.8Ghz??

[B1gbeard]

i dont get why so many get so upset.8pack was brought in for his expertize and brands to sell items.guess what ? thats what they do.

It's not that at all. I get that the work 8Pack has done to personally overclock these has value, but £500 is quite frankly ridiculous.

 

[ed79]

4.8 is a respectable clock speed I don't what your problem is.

Maybe on something like my 5 year old 3570 that turbos to 3.8, but on a 7700 that is already 4.5 at stock?

 

[Ayahuasca]

No wonder OCUK are doing so well when they come up with genius marketing schemes like this.

 

[humbug]

They can all do 4.8Ghz....

I may be mistaken, but I read in another thread that binned Kaby Lake's would only be sold in bundles so I'm guessing this is it??

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/detail/index/sArticle/65056

Kabylake is just boil in a bag Skylake, don't get sucked in by all the hype.

If you're all expecting to buy a random 7700K and just clock it to 4.8Ghz minimum you're in for a disappointment.

 

[RichUK]

Kabylake is just boil in a bag Skylake, don't get sucked in by all the hype.

If you're all expecting to buy a random 7700K and just clock it to 4.8Ghz minimum you're in for a disappointment.

All reviews, leaks et al have had no issue whatsoever getting to 4.8ghz lol

Facts are facts.

 

[Armageus]

All reviews, leaks et al have had no issue whatsoever getting to 4.8ghz lol

Facts are facts.

Surely reviewers get cherry picked samples though? - unless the review states "we bought a retail processor" etc.

 

[humbug]

All reviews, leaks et al have had no issue whatsoever getting to 4.8ghz lol

Facts are facts.

No issues? 1.4 Volts and more on £150 coolers and still boiling hot, that to me looks more like instructions from their Intel pay masters "get them clocked up there at all costs"

I don't have issues getting my DC to 4.8Ghz if that's the criteria... easy.

 

[RichUK]

No issues? 1.4 Volts and more on £150 coolers and still boiling hot, that to me looks more like instructions from their Intel pay masters "get them clocked up there at all costs"

I don't have issues getting my DC to 4.8Ghz if that's the criteria... easy.

When testing with avx, but these binned cpus aren't tested with avx so won't get that hot.

 

[humbug]

When testing with avx, but these binned cpus aren't tested with avx so won't get that hot.

Stress testing no longer counts?

AVX is an extension, its not something thats only ever used in stress testing, its used in normal Desktop operations, Stress testing AVX is no different to Handbreak encoding or tessellated image rendering..

 

[On Holiday]

I'd rather buy an ASUS Z270 board and one click 5GHz

 

[RichUK]

Stress testing no longer counts?

AVX is an extension, its not something thats only ever used in stress testing, its used in normal Desktop operations, Stress testing AVX is no different to Handbreak encoding or tessellated image rendering..

Correct. What's your point in this context, though? (not meaning to be rude).

EDIT: You can't buy binned 4.8Ghz chips and expect them to perform well in avx execution because OCUK omits this test case.

Actually I think I may have entangled (confused) your original point with the topic of this thread. Never mind.

What is true, they do get ridiculously hot when running an AVX workload, but 4.8Ghz seems achievable on most from what I've seen.

 

[humbug]

Correct. What's your point, though?

The point is the 7700K is not really any better than the 6700K, and why would they be? its same chip on a more mature process, yes on average they might clock 200Mhz higher on the same sort of volts - temps, they arrive at a little higher stable clocks.

But they are still very hot even with very expensive coolers with very high volts if they arrive at those speeds the 6700K might not, the sort of temperatures and volts one wouldn't say was perfectly fine for a 6700K, yet suddenly we are to accept that it is because they renamed it?

Its a rather cynical move to overclock and rename a CPU because its more mature and then relaunch it and to do what seems to me force reviewers to get clocks out of them they normally wouldn't publicly or at least do that and tell you its completely normal and that you at home can expect the same.
the later bins of 6700K's probably have the same characteristics of the 7700K.


If anything it given me hope for Zen as the 7700K to me looks a bit desperate.

 

[RichUK]

The point is the 7700K is not really any better than the 6700K, and why would they be? its same chip on a more mature process, yes on average they might clock 200Mhz higher on the same sort of volts - temps, they arrive at a little higher stable clocks.

But they are still very hot even with very expensive coolers with very high volts if they arrive at those speeds the 6700K might not, the sort of temperatures and volts one wouldn't say was perfectly fine for a 6700K, yet suddenly we are to accept that it is because they renamed it?

Its a rather cynical move to overclock and rename a CPU because its more mature and then relaunch it and to do what seems to me force reviewers to get clocks out of them they normally wouldn't publicly or at least do that and tell you its completely normal and that you at home can expect the same.

If anything it give me hope for Zen as that to me looks a bit desperate, the later bins of 6700K's probably have the same characteristics and the 7700K

I agree 100%, and I do hope Zen delivers because Kaby Lake doesn't qualify as a new generation IMO.

 

[Mei]

Correct. What's your point in this context, though? (not meaning to be rude).

EDIT: You can't buy binned 4.8Ghz chips and expect them to perform well in avx execution because OCUK omits this test case.

Actually I think I may have entangled (confused) your original point with the topic of this thread. Never mind.

What is true, they do get ridiculously hot when running an AVX workload, but 4.8Ghz seems achievable on most from what I've seen.

i should think most are being used for gaming?
if they doing a lot of encoding more cores would make sense to them

a new stress test based on what people actually do on their pc's would be cool, a more real version of realbench
so someone needs to make a benchmark that simulates 100rounds of overwatch while streaming social eating

 

[Besty]

some peeps missing the point, 5ghz - no big deal.

5ghz stable at 1.36v is a big deal.

 

[humbug]

If KabyLake does 7 hours swarm backing lighting in Unreal Engine @ 5Ghz - 1.36v i'll consider it a very golden chip, if 7 out of 10 do it and not throw an error at the end i'll eat my keyboard.

 

[RichUK]

If KabyLake does 7 hours swarm backing lighting in Unreal Engine @ 5Ghz - 1.36v i'll consider it a very golden chip, if 7 out of 10 do it and not throw an error at the end i'll eat my keyboard.

I'll give it a go - how do I test this?

 

[Doogles]

Kabylake is just boil in a bag Skylake, don't get sucked in by all the hype.

If you're all expecting to buy a random 7700K and just clock it to 4.8Ghz minimum you're in for a disappointment.

After I've banged through 1.4v I'm sure as hell it will be stable @5ghz
(I won't be buying Kaby though)

 

[humbug]

I'll give it a go - how do I test this?

Build a game, or download a demo large enough (Kite Demo?) to take that much time to bake the lighting.

Then bake the lighting.

 

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

some peeps missing the point, 5ghz - no big deal.

5ghz stable at 1.36v is a big deal.

Its a milestone of sorts, but in reality it is a 200-300GHz increase.