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OcUK evening RX7900GRE review thread

humbug said:
Sorry, i did see that about the Verge but it didn't click in my head.

The card that HUB used is designed for prebuilds, its designed to use less power than the retail version and with that is about 10% slower than the retail version.

Imagine this, Nvidia launch the RTX 5060, there are actually two of them, one is specifically designed for retail and the other for prebuilds, the one for prebuilds is 10% slower than the retail one,
You cannot buy the prebuild designed one as a stand alone card.
Steve Walton buys a Dell prebuild, pulls the prebuild designed RTX 5060 out of it and reviews it as if its the retail RTX 5060, then complains the performance is not much better than the RTX 5050 Ti and its not worth buying.

A week later he comes back and says everyone else reviewed an AIB version of the RTX 5060 and i reviewed the reference one, that's why my numbers are different, but i will review this AIB one and add it to the chart as an AIB reference point.

Do you see anything wrong with what's going on there?
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So your point is no one other than the odd retailer can obtain one to sell to the UK market so the Reference doesn’t really exist for all intents and purposes and shouldn’t be used as a base for establishing AIB cards’ performances.

But @loftie has a point that it does exist and some here might have bought it recently for £522- so it should also be thrown in for comparison in benchmarks?
 
even if it's with prebuilds in mind and it is using a lower power target on purpose and it's not using a custom BIOS from the prebuilt manufacturer, that's on AMD.
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Not if this card is not available to buy retail.

Different cards having the same name depending on what market they are intended for is very common from Nvidia and AMD, Steve knows this, the thing with that is you're not supposed to be able to buy these slower card's.

So Steve pretending the card he pulled out of a prebuild is the same product you can buy retail is a serious laps in knowledge at best or deliberately and cynically misleading at worst.

He need's to explain to his audience that if they do see a "reference 7900 GRE" for sale at a retailer that its a scam, not as he is now telling them that its all good and proper.
 
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GhostDog1981 said:
On other social media platforms I’ve seen pc builds of people who have bought those UK dodgy Ref cards lol! Wonder if they care or know they are locked.
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Right... this is the problem i have with all these silly little games, these people are not smart enough to play these games without it having some impact on consumers.
 
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Gerard said:
Out of stock at the moment, unfortunately.
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If it had been available in October I would have bought the GRE for £23 more. But alas I’ve had my card now 5 months can’t complain as still a cracking card (7800XT MBA). Getting 11740 in Port Royal once overclocked.

Will be swapping this out in 2027/2028 depending on the next gen consoles and game development. (Probably would have had to do this in all likelihood with a GRE too)
 
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humbug said:
Sorry, i did see that about the Verge but it didn't click in my head.

The card that HUB used is designed for prebuilds, its designed to use less power than the retail version and with that is about 10% slower than the retail version.

Imagine this, Nvidia launch the RTX 5060, there are actually two of them, one is specifically designed for retail and the other for prebuilds, the one for prebuilds is 10% slower than the retail one,
You cannot buy the prebuild designed one as a stand alone card.
Steve Walton buys a Dell prebuild, pulls the prebuild designed RTX 5060 out of it and reviews it as if its the retail RTX 5060, then complains the performance is not much better than the RTX 5050 Ti and its not worth buying.

A week later he comes back and says everyone else reviewed an AIB version of the RTX 5060 and i reviewed the reference one, that's why my numbers are different, but i will review this AIB one and add it to the chart as an AIB reference point.

Do you see anything wrong with what's going on there?
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Maybe nvidia shouldn't be making the exact same gpu with different usages be different. This is just like all the 1030s thry made be so different imo. This should be on nvidia not HUB such as I dislike HUB. If thry knew thry should have stated it aswell.
 
D1craig said:
Maybe nvidia shouldn't be making the exact same gpu with different usages be different. This is just like all the 1030s thry made be so different imo. This should be on nvidia not HUB such as I dislike HUB. If thry knew thry should have stated it aswell.
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Whatever the right or wrongs with AMD / Nvidia in that, and i agree with you for both Nvidia and AMD, Its Steve Waltons job to make consumers aware of this, one reason i have already explained but another is as a criticism at them for doing this.

Steve Walton can be critical of AMD here while at the same time properly inform his audience.

On a side note, there things are sometimes at the request of the OEM, for example the OEM might want a lower power consumption version of the 7900 GRE so that it works inside their cheaper OEM box that doesn't have good airflow.
OEM's are also why AMD's 7000 series architecture APU's are branded 8000 series, its so that these OEM's can pretend they are later version of the CPU's we buy retail, yes they sell these APU's retail too but they are designed for OEM, its why they get them before we do.

None of this makes it right, but it is at least an explanation for it.
 
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humbug said:
3 years is my thinking too..... CPU next, and Motherboard, RAM..... i'd like to replace my case with a new shiny too..... aww crap.
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I'm actually quite happy with my current line up. I'd like a newer GPU with more VRAM but that's purely for davinci resolve. 5900X 64GB ram water cooled (did just buy a new block though).
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Ross Thomson said:
I'm actually quite happy with my current line up. I'd like a newer GPU with more VRAM but that's purely for davinci resolve. 5900X 64GB ram water cooled (did just buy a new block though).
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I am too to be honest, 5800X, its holding up very well with the 7800 XT, Its similar in performance to the RTX 3090 which came out at around the same time.

It was better at driving that GPU than the more expensive 10900K so that's what i went for knowing i would keep it for at least one GPU upgrade and i figured that GPU upgrade would be similar to a 3090, which is it is, its just not Nvidia and later than i would have hoped, normanly i upgrade my GPU every two years, one year the CPU, the next the GPU.
As it turns out i had the 2070S for more than 3 years, logest i have ever had a GPU, because i didn't think much of the 3070 / Ti, and then the 4070 was just as bad.
People are going to hate this but thank ##### AMD do exist, some might argue AMD are just as bad, i'm not going to argue too much against that because there is some truth in it but for some one who wanted an Nvidia GPU, oh yes.... and was thoroughly unimpressed by 2 subsequent generations of GPU's from them i have to say the RX 7800 XT was at least what i was looking for.

To me for the last few years it was AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU = best combination, now i have an all AMD system, it feels right, it feels good, i really like the GPU, its good,

I'm going to keep the 5800X for another year, i'm going to stick with my traditional cycle plan, i'm going for the Ryzen 9000 series, my 50800X will be 5 years old by then, and held up very well.

Go AMD. :)
 
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Got a reply from the other place about the reference board. It comes in an anti static bag with no retail packaging, so looks like it's an import from China.
 
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