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[gupsterg]

The Pure was really that price on release? I didn't pay too much attention on pricing on another cards >£600 I just looked at the ones at £570. I thought it was £599.

That screen shot was at 13:10:47 on launch day. OCUK had pricing up before launch, I have screen shots from earlier in the day also. Other etailers didn't have pricing up until launch time, so in a way at least OCUK were giving people a chance to see and decide what they may want before launch time.

No way would I pay the £120 extra for the pure.

+1 .

 

[Kirkatron]

Yes.

It isn't good value at £700

The 4070ti super and 7900xtx could be had for that amount, if not far off most of last year.

Similar or only marginally better performance from the new gen for the same money isn't good value.

At £569 it's good value.

4070 Ti Super isn't comparable in raster performance. The XTX price suffered because of its RT performance. This has, to some extent, the best of both worlds from those cards, the raster of the XTX and the RT of the 4070 Ti. I personally wouldn't touch the 4070 Ti Super for 4k.
£699 for the Nitro+ was a perfect price for me as XTXs go for around £800 on Ebay, so its a free sidegrade. If the 5080 was £8-900, and you could actually get one I'd have got a 5080.

I got lucky with the silicon lottery and the Nitro+ is running about 15% above its stock fps values so it's punching way above its weight.

 

[michty_me]

4070 Ti Super isn't comparable in raster performance. The XTX price suffered because of its RT performance. This has, to some extent, the best of both worlds from those cards, the raster of the XTX and the RT of the 4070 Ti. I personally wouldn't touch the 4070 Ti Super for 4k.
£699 for the Nitro+ was a perfect price for me as XTXs go for around £800 on Ebay, so its a free sidegrade. If the 5080 was £8-900, and you could actually get one I'd have got a 5080.

I got lucky with the silicon lottery and the Nitro+ is running about 15% above its stock fps values so it's punching way above its weight.

I was away to say, Many people have the Nitro+ knocking on the door of a stock 5080 (I know they can also be OC'd too before anyone starts) but at that price point, I would say its decent.

 

[michty_me]

I'm an idiot, seen someone say the Nitro+ was available earlier so have been trying to place an order. I've only realised they were referring to the non XT.

 

[Jono8]

4070 Ti Super isn't comparable in raster performance. The XTX price suffered because of its RT performance. This has, to some extent, the best of both worlds from those cards, the raster of the XTX and the RT of the 4070 Ti. I personally wouldn't touch the 4070 Ti Super for 4k.
£699 for the Nitro+ was a perfect price for me as XTXs go for around £800 on Ebay, so its a free sidegrade. If the 5080 was £8-900, and you could actually get one I'd have got a 5080.

I got lucky with the silicon lottery and the Nitro+ is running about 15% above its stock fps values so it's punching way above its weight.

8.6-11.1% faster in raster over the 4070ti Super but actually slightly slower in RT

XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Mercury OC Magnetic Air Review

The XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Mercury OC comes with a unique capability. Its fans are attached magnetically and will pop out easily, which makes them easy to clean and replace. In terms of performance the XFX card does very well, too, beating the RTX 5070, almost matching the RTX 5070 Ti.

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XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Mercury OC Magnetic Air Review

The XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Mercury OC comes with a unique capability. Its fans are attached magnetically and will pop out easily, which makes them easy to clean and replace. In terms of performance the XFX card does very well, too, beating the RTX 5070, almost matching the RTX 5070 Ti.

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if you think a ~10% uplift in raster and small regression in RT for the same price point (or worse!) for a new generation card is good value then....well.


The 4070Ti Super was regularly available for ~£700, and sometimes less through last year.



I honestly think people are massively kidding themselves if they think the 9070 XT is good value for £700..

 

[Jono8]

I was away to say, Many people have the Nitro+ knocking on the door of a stock 5080 (I know they can also be OC'd too before anyone starts) but at that price point, I would say its decent.

It isnt decent at £700 at all. See my previous post just now when compared to the 4070ti Super.

At £700 you get a ~10% uplift in raster and a slight regression in RT from something you could have had at the same price almost a year ago.

 

[Bidley]

I'm I the only one who thinks that even at £700 it's still good value for the XT.
I paid £1000 for my Red Devil 7900 XTX just over 2 years ago and the fact I can buy a card that matches it in raster and beats it in upscaling and RT for £6-700 is awesome. If it still cost £1k, I'd be annoyed.
I really didn't expect the 9070 XT to perform as well as it does especially at 4k.

4k Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered Native

Red Devil 7900 XTX 111 fps
Nitro 9070 XT 115 fps.

The bonus is the 9070 XT can then use FSR 4 which is way better than 3.1. 3.1 looked awful.

I agree. And you're correct to compare prices at launch against eachother.

 

[Eddie99]

The Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 9070 Gaming OC 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card is currently in stock at OCUK if anyone's in the market.

At £60 above the MSRP of the XT version I'm not surprised it's still in stock.

I'm I the only one who thinks that even at £700 it's still good value for the XT.
I paid £1000 for my Red Devil 7900 XTX just over 2 years ago and the fact I can buy a card that matches it in raster and beats it in upscaling and RT for £6-700 is awesome. If it still cost £1k, I'd be annoyed.
I really didn't expect the 9070 XT to perform as well as it does especially at 4k.

4k Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered Native

Red Devil 7900 XTX 111 fps
Nitro 9070 XT 115 fps.

The bonus is the 9070 XT can then use FSR 4 which is way better than 3.1. 3.1 looked awful.

At £700 you might as well pay a bit extra for the 5070 Ti, I think it would be better value for money with all the extra features. While FSR4 is an improvement it's not as good as DLSS 4 and you still have 5 years of older games that support DLSS 2/3 and reflex low latency. Nvidia has RTX super resolution which does a fantastic job of upscaling videos and cleaning up compression artifacts, AMD have their own version but I doubt it's as good and doesn't seem to be well supported in video players. There's also of course better power efficiency, at £700 for a 9070 XT there's a good chance it would be more expensive than a 5070 Ti in the long run. The only price that a 9070 XT makes sense is at the £570 MSRP and not a penny more.

 

[Jono8]

And you're correct to compare prices at launch against eachother.

Why? Surely it is only correct to compare to what you could have bought for most of the previous year

 

[Bidley]

8.6-11.1% faster in raster over the 4070ti Super but actually slightly slower in RT

XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Mercury OC Magnetic Air Review

The XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Mercury OC comes with a unique capability. Its fans are attached magnetically and will pop out easily, which makes them easy to clean and replace. In terms of performance the XFX card does very well, too, beating the RTX 5070, almost matching the RTX 5070 Ti.

www.techpowerup.com

XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Mercury OC Magnetic Air Review

The XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Mercury OC comes with a unique capability. Its fans are attached magnetically and will pop out easily, which makes them easy to clean and replace. In terms of performance the XFX card does very well, too, beating the RTX 5070, almost matching the RTX 5070 Ti.

www.techpowerup.com

if you think a ~10% uplift in raster and small regression in RT for the same price point (or worse!) for a new generation card is good value then....well.


The 4070Ti Super was regularly available for ~£700, and sometimes less through last year.



I honestly think people are massively kidding themselves if they think the 9070 XT is good value for £700..

Again, you can't compare sale pricing to launch prices. MSRP cards at 4070ti Super launch were $799. We're talking about the top end OC card from Sapphire at launch.

Nitros will be nearer £600 in two years, which is a fair comparison.

 

[Jono8]

Again, you can't compare sale pricing to launch prices. MSRP cards at 4070ti Super launch were $799. We're talking about the top end OC card from Sapphire at launch.

Nitros will be nearer £600 in two years, which is a fair comparison.

No it isnt a fair comparison at all. Why would you want to compare that? Surely you want to compare it to what you could have bought nearer the time of its arrival.

It makes no sense to think it is good value at £700 when it barely beats (and is slightly worse in some case) than a card you could have already had for ages for the same money.

...and now you are comparing the price of something two years later....when the 4070ti super has only been out just over a year!




If a card comes out that is already the same or has been beaten already by previous generation cards (ie no new performance level), the ONLY thing that matters is the price. At £700 it is a terrible release. At £569 it is a good release.

 

[Bidley]

No it isnt a fair comparison at all. Why would you want to compare that? Surely you want to compare it to what you could have bought nearer the time of its arrival.

It makes no sense to think it is good value at £700 when it barely beats (and is slightly worse in some case) than a card you could have already had for ages for the same money.

...and now you are comparing the price of something two years later....when the 4070ti super has only been out just over a year!

There has never been a time when a 4070ti Super has been available at a lower price at the same time as a 9070 xt. You keep posting these weird comparisons that have no footing in reality and telling people that they need to justify what they've bought or that they shouldn't be happy with what they've bought.

I mean, whatever floats your boat, but I don't get it!

 

[Jono8]

There has never been a time when a 4070ti Super has been available at a lower price at the same time as a 9070 xt. You keep posting these weird comparisons that have no footing in reality and telling people that they need to justify what they've bought or that they shouldn't be happy with what they've bought.

I mean, whatever floats your boat, but I don't get it!

I’m simply talking about the good value comments.

To me, a new card is redundant if it doesn’t offer any significant price/performance improvement, or no new higher performance tier (ie higher performance than we have ever had)

At £700 and at 4080 performance, the 9070 XT does neither.


At £569 it offers consumers a reasonable price/performance improvement (still not that great, or as good as other gen on gen increases but its reasonable at that price point).

 

[Bidley]

I’m simply talking about the good value comments.

To me, a new card is redundant if it doesn’t offer any significant price/performance improvement, or no new higher performance tier (ie higher performance than we have ever had)

At £700 and at 4080 performance, the 9070 XT does neither.

We're talking about a single high end SKU. The correct comparison would be against the other card's price a week after its launch. How much was a 4070ti Super Strix or Aorus or whatever a week after launch?

 

[Venali]

It's only good at the £569 price for -me-, but if you need a card and disposable income have at it. My 3070 would probably do me another year or 2 at 1200p anyway.

 

[Jono8]

We're talking about a single high end SKU. The correct comparison would be against the other card's price a week after its launch. How much was a 4070ti Super Strix or Aorus or whatever a week after launch?

We will have to agree to disagree because i can't understand your logic of comparing them both a week after launch. It doesn’t make any sense (from the perspective of evaluating a new GPU release).

Also, we arent talking a single high end SKU. Most of even the medium or base tier SKUS are approaching £700 too.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-pure-radeon-rx-9070-xt-gaming-oc-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-c-gra-spr-03982.html

That is a +£20 odd sku compared to the Pulse normally but its currently on sale for £120 above MSRP.

 

[alexp999]

I’m simply talking about the good value comments.

To me, a new card is redundant if it doesn’t offer any significant price/performance improvement, or no new higher performance tier (ie higher performance than we have ever had)

At £700 and at 4080 performance, the 9070 XT does neither.


At £569 it offers consumers a reasonable price/performance improvement (still not that great, or as good as other gen on gen increases but its reasonable at that price point).

I've had my time with NVIDIA, probably had more NVIDIA GPUs than AMD in total, but since after I had my 1080 Ti, I don't want to support them at the moment, so having 4070 Ti Super performance in an AMD package with comparable RT for £600-700 is to me good value.

Maybe I'm still feeling like £699 for the Nitro 9070 XT is a bargain compared to the £850 I had to pay for the 6800 XT Nitro (I sold my Vega for £500 at the time so didn't care much). But even before then £500 was pretty typical and with how stagnant GPUs were for a while, or just brute forcing architecture, to me this still feels like a good step forward at a price I think is reasonable.

It might not be for everyone and that's why competition in the market is important. I do wonder what AMD would have priced their card at if not for NVIDIA pricing the 5070 with a $549 MSRP, even if that has not actually happened with the paper launch.

I have to say though, I think compared to what is available right now, considering NVIDIA discontinued all their mid to high end 40 series cards, the AMDs are still good value compared to the ridiculously overpriced NVIDIA 50 series.

It will be interesting to see how the prices settle for both manufacturers.

 

[Meaker]

At £60 above the MSRP of the XT version I'm not surprised it's still in stock.


At £700 you might as well pay a bit extra for the 5070 Ti, I think it would be better value for money with all the extra features. While FSR4 is an improvement it's not as good as DLSS 4 and you still have 5 years of older games that support DLSS 2/3 and reflex low latency. Nvidia has RTX super resolution which does a fantastic job of upscaling videos and cleaning up compression artifacts, AMD have their own version but I doubt it's as good and doesn't seem to be well supported in video players. There's also of course better power efficiency, at £700 for a 9070 XT there's a good chance it would be more expensive than a 5070 Ti in the long run. The only price that a 9070 XT makes sense is at the £570 MSRP and not a penny more.

It's not too far away from the MSRP XTs in performance if both are tweaked to be fair and it will be quieter.

 

[Jono8]

At £700 you might as well pay a bit extra for the 5070 Ti, I think it would be better value for money with all the extra features. While FSR4 is an improvement it's not as good as DLSS 4 and you still have 5 years of older games that support DLSS 2/3 and reflex low latency. Nvidia has RTX super resolution which does a fantastic job of upscaling videos and cleaning up compression artifacts, AMD have their own version but I doubt it's as good and doesn't seem to be well supported in video players. There's also of course better power efficiency, at £700 for a 9070 XT there's a good chance it would be more expensive than a 5070 Ti in the long run. The only price that a 9070 XT makes sense is at the £570 MSRP and not a penny more.

5070Ti's are actually staying on stock at most places now.

Sure, they are still £100-£150 above MSRP, but i think thats going to change soon as they sit on shelves and summer approaches.

The 5070Ti is objectively the better card at the £700 mark. Potentially the 5070ti price dropping (ie the gouging stops), will likely force the 9070XT to drop back to its MSRP too.

 

[Venali]

ngl I'd probably bite on the 5070ti if it was available for MSRP though there is the physx issue.