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ngl I'd probably bite on the 5070ti if it was available for MSRP though there is the physx issue.
And if my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle.

Once you can get a 5070ti at MSRP, the equivalent 9070xt will be MSRP as well. I reckon the 5070ti is only sitting on shelves because the 9070 xt is cheaper and more widely available. Nvidia seem to have real supply issues, if it was artificial they would've surely flooded the market by now.
 
It isnt decent at £700 at all. See my previous post just now when compared to the 4070ti Super.

At £700 you get a ~10% uplift in raster and a slight regression in RT from something you could have had at the same price almost a year ago.
Can't get a 4070ti now can we?
A 5070ti doesn't even give that much of an uplift either and the prices of them are daft!
A £700 9070xt is pretty much the high end, what's a high end 5070ti worth, what was the 4070ti high end AIB selling for?
 
I'm sorry but a new card released is not good value if it costs similar and with similar performance to another card from a year back.
Check PCPartPickerUK's price history on the 4070ti Super for the last year.

The lowest price was for 2 days at £772.79 from 29/9/24 - 30/9/24. The lowest price at any other time was £820-£840, until last December when it went up to about £860.

This was for a TUF.
 
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Interestingly, again looking at PCPartPickerUK at a Windforce 4080 Super, the lowest that got was £911, for a day on 30/11/24. During October and November it was about £930, then for the rest of 2024 it never dipped below £960.
 
At £60 above the MSRP of the XT version I'm not surprised it's still in stock.


At £700 you might as well pay a bit extra for the 5070 Ti, I think it would be better value for money with all the extra features. While FSR4 is an improvement it's not as good as DLSS 4 and you still have 5 years of older games that support DLSS 2/3 and reflex low latency. Nvidia has RTX super resolution which does a fantastic job of upscaling videos and cleaning up compression artifacts, AMD have their own version but I doubt it's as good and doesn't seem to be well supported in video players. There's also of course better power efficiency, at £700 for a 9070 XT there's a good chance it would be more expensive than a 5070 Ti in the long run. The only price that a 9070 XT makes sense is at the £570 MSRP and not a penny more.
You can't buy a 5070 Ti for £700, or even close at this moment in time. Currently OCUK have the cheapest 5070 TI available for £890 (Link). Any game that supports DLSS 2/3 or XeSS can be used with FSR4 with a simple mod (Link), same as it's always been for upscaling methods not officially supported. The cost of running a GPU is insignificant, there is around 10w difference in power consumption if you compare like for like models when running at full power. So even if you used both cards at max power for 20 hours a week (Which i don't have time for), that's a total of 10KWh over a year. 25p a unit, works out at a huge £2.50 for the year. When both cards are locked to 60fps the AMD is actually significantly more efficient, 80w compared to 110w (Link). Again though i wouldn't base my purchase on power usage, I'm not sure why people bring power up when it's such an insignificant amount in the whole scheme of things.
 
You can't buy a 5070 Ti for £700, or even close at this moment in time. Currently OCUK have the cheapest 5070 TI available for £890 (Link). Any game that supports DLSS 2/3 or XeSS can be used with FSR4 with a simple mod (Link), same as it's always been for upscaling methods not officially supported. The cost of running a GPU is insignificant, there is around 10w difference in power consumption if you compare like for like models when running at full power. So even if you used both cards at max power for 20 hours a week (Which i don't have time for), that's a total of 10KWh over a year. 25p a unit, works out at a huge £2.50 for the year. When both cards are locked to 60fps the AMD is actually significantly more efficient, 80w compared to 110w (Link). Again though i wouldn't base my purchase on power usage, I'm not sure why people bring power up when it's such an insignificant amount in the whole scheme of things.
For me DLSS/FSR needs to be supported in the game, I wouldn't be willing to use some dodgy third party solution with possible bugs/glitches and which you need to inject and risk game bans if you accidentally use it in an online game. The 5070 Ti is a substantially more efficient card overall, especially when using DLSS 2/3 in older games. The 60fps lock is an unrealistic scenario but in that case a 4070 Ti Super would've been a better option.
 
For me DLSS/FSR needs to be supported in the game, I wouldn't be willing to use some dodgy third party solution with possible bugs/glitches and which you need to inject and risk game bans if you accidentally use it in an online game. The 5070 Ti is a substantially more efficient card overall, especially when using DLSS 2/3 in older games. The 60fps lock is an unrealistic scenario but in that case a 4070 Ti Super would've been a better option.
I agree, there is a lot of chat about optiscaler or whatever it's called but I would be hesitant to have it on the machine as we know how cheat detectors love picking up injecting software.

If everything was MSRP, I would likely go Nvidia again (I've had the majority of my GPUs being AMD cards).
 
For me DLSS/FSR needs to be supported in the game, I wouldn't be willing to use some dodgy third party solution with possible bugs/glitches and which you need to inject and risk game bans if you accidentally use it in an online game. The 5070 Ti is a substantially more efficient card overall, especially when using DLSS 2/3 in older games. The 60fps lock is an unrealistic scenario but in that case a 4070 Ti Super would've been a better option.
Yes - but where are you going to get a 5070ti for £750?
I agree that £700 is too much for these cards and there doesn't seem to be much difference in performance between base models and higher models.
It seems to be down to the silicon lottery how high they boost to (The highest clock I've seen was for a 'base' gigabyte gaming OC, happily boosting to over 3,500).
I paid £635 for a pure - if the cards become available a good bit cheaper then I'll get one of those instead - but I don't mind paying a bit extra for the pure, which will suit my build.
 
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Can't get a 4070ti now can we?
A 5070ti doesn't even give that much of an uplift either and the prices of them are daft!
A £700 9070xt is pretty much the high end, what's a high end 5070ti worth, what was the 4070ti high end AIB selling for?

The 5070ti is a stupid price now too.

Whether you can get a 4070ti super now is irrelevant.

The fact is, at gouged prices, the 9070xt is hardly any better than the stuff we had all of last year.
 
I agree, there is a lot of chat about optiscaler or whatever it's called but I would be hesitant to have it on the machine as we know how cheat detectors love picking up injecting software.

If everything was MSRP, I would likely go Nvidia again (I've had the majority of my GPUs being AMD cards).
Quoting myself here, I really missed adrenaline when I moved over to Nvidia. Both have pros and cons. Personally, I prefer pure raster for the games I'm playing currently so either would likely work for me.
 
The 5070ti is a stupid price now too.

Whether you can get a 4070ti super now is irrelevant.

The fact is, at gouged prices, the 9070xt is hardly any better than the stuff we had all of last year.
It most certainly is overpriced just now. Utter bonkers prices!

I dislike paying high end prices for mid tier gear as much as everyone so we will leave it at that. I'm away to the pub.
 
8.6-11.1% faster in raster over the 4070ti Super but actually slightly slower in RT





if you think a ~10% uplift in raster and small regression in RT for the same price point (or worse!) for a new generation card is good value then....well.


The 4070Ti Super was regularly available for ~£700, and sometimes less through last year.



I honestly think people are massively kidding themselves if they think the 9070 XT is good value for £700..
You're not comparing the Nitro+ which is what the conversation is about.
 
It isnt decent at £700 at all. See my previous post just now when compared to the 4070ti Super.

At £700 you get a ~10% uplift in raster and a slight regression in RT from something you could have had at the same price almost a year ago.
You keep going on about card pices for last year, many people wouldn't have been in the market for a new card then but are now.

Why not compare prices as they are? That would surely show whether a card is worthwhile as of now.
 
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