OcUK Minecraft Server - Rules & Chat

I'm online quite a lot and I'm more then happy to keep an eye out.

I just think we shouldn't accept random people with one post, Let people on that are long standing members and let people on who are friends of long standing members (robosprog is my brother for example)

I'm all up for setting up a server if possible as well at some point :)
 
Lysander said:
To be fair Gars, that's rubbish. This is not our server, this is your server. Set up by you at your own decision. You and Windle are the admins and the server admin when it comes to this kind of thing is poor. It is not the players' responsibility to sort this out. The bbhere command is indeed in place but it gives little useful information. The map is huge and it's virtually impossible to keep an eye out for griefers.

What we can do as players is give you the /getpos and if every move is logged, as you say, it should be easy for you to find out who did the griefing. Apart from that there's nothing we can do apart from chance upon someone doing damage.
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It is not my server I handed over full ownership to Windle 2 months ago.
I am a admin for 2 weeks only while Windle is away.
Sorry you think the admin is poor :( I have to ask why you still log on & play on this server ?
It is the players' responsibility to take care & pride in YOUR server if you want to be baby sat then I think you are on the wrong server.
To me the combined power of the 30+ players on this YOUR server that play the most is going to be far more powerful then admins if you keep a eye out on whats happeninig & whos on YOUR server. But I never knew until now that you wanted to be baby sat.
I would have thought that maybe the players would have taken it upon them selfs to have a look on the minecraft forums to see if theres a mod that replaces bbhere but again I never knew that you wanted it all done for you.
I guess that it's just me that takes some ownership of things I do as part of life.
This is one of the reasons that I handed the server over to windle as one member said when I left 'its a thank less job being a adamin'
I don't want thanks but then nor do I want to be told that 'its not our job to sort this out'.

Macky
Why are you so sure that its someone that has joined in the last few months ?
There are over 100 names on the white list it could be anyone, I had stuff damaged on server #2 when I had two 10 slot servers on the go, from that day I have not banned anyone so that person is still on the whitelist & can easy come back 3 months later & do the samething.

How is having more players moderating going to help ? do you need to have the title 'moderator' to do the job ? can players not just do that anyway on THERE server ? but then as I have been told 'that's rubbish' as it's not upto you as players to help yourselfs. Unless you have the title of 'Admin' then it all changes you all of a sudden become someone who cares about YOUR server. Only thing that a moderator could do is Ban players has this been needed before ?

Lysander I can send you the bbhere report for all the players & YOU could have a look yourself & help your self & YOUR sever but you will not want to as it's not your responsibility.
You just want to play, I will little you in to a little secret the Admins just want play games as well. Secret number two the server owner pays £24 a month so the forum members have a server to play on its a free service he & I use to offer.
Am I asking a little to much for players to keep a eye on THERE server ?

Can YOU the players not take pride in YOUR server ? & take on owership of the problem of stuff being damaged ?

Well I am sure I have said to much & left a can of worms for Windle.

Sorry I truly am that some of you feel that this is not YOUR server :(
 
garsands said:
It is not my server I handed over full ownership to Windle 2 months ago.
I am a admin for 2 weeks only while Windle is away.
Sorry you think the admin is poor :( I have to ask why you still log on & play on this server ?
It is the players' responsibility to take care & pride in YOUR server if you want to be baby sat then I think you are on the wrong server.
To me the combined power of the 30+ players on this YOUR server that play the most is going to be far more powerful then admins if you keep a eye out on whats happeninig & whos on YOUR server. But I never knew until now that you wanted to be baby sat.
I would have thought that maybe the players would have taken it upon them selfs to have a look on the minecraft forums to see if theres a mod that replaces bbhere but again I never knew that you wanted it all done for you.
I guess that it's just me that takes some ownership of things I do as part of life.
This is one of the reasons that I handed the server over to windle as one member said when I left 'its a thank less job being a adamin'
I don't want thanks but then nor do I want to be told that 'its not our job to sort this out'.

Macky
Why are you so sure that its someone that has joined in the last few months ?
There are over 100 names on the white list it could be anyone, I had stuff damaged on server #2 when I had two 10 slot servers on the go, from that day I have not banned anyone so that person is still on the whitelist & can easy come back 3 months later & do the samething.

How is having more players moderating going to help ? do you need to have the title 'moderator' to do the job ? can players not just do that anyway on THERE server ? but then as I have been told 'that's rubbish' as it's not upto you as players to help yourselfs. Unless you have the title of 'Admin' then it all changes you all of a sudden become someone who cares about YOUR server. Only thing that a moderator could do is Ban players has this been needed before ?

Lysander I can send you the bbhere report for all the players & YOU could have a look yourself & help your self & YOUR sever but you will not want to as it's not your responsibility.
You just want to play, I will little you in to a little secret the Admins just want play games as well. Secret number two the server owner pays £24 a month so the forum members have a server to play on its a free service he & I use to offer.
Am I asking a little to much for players to keep a eye on THERE server ?

Can YOU the players not take pride in YOUR server ? & take on owership of the problem of stuff being damaged ?

Well I am sure I have said to much & left a can of worms for Windle.

Sorry I truly am that some of you feel that this is not YOUR server :(
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Fully agree with you on this gars, it is up to the players to moderate themselves.

If you folk want to keep whingeing about it then I'll be reconsidering paying the bulk of the server operating costs, as Gar points out it's a thankless task. I get grief if the server crashes despite it not being hosting side but the crap minecraft BETA software. I get grief if the minecraft login servers go down and people can't connect.
 
If someone wants to grief then they arent going to do it when its busy or when people are near them. And how hard is it to check the server logs which have been mentioned on numerous occasions?

If there's been some damage and we don't know who then that would be an appropriate to use the logs to find out who the griefer is and ban them.
 
i don't think anyone is giving you grief about the server being up or down or mc.net being up or down. people are concerned that no admining takes place on the server, and the only thing WE have to catch griefers is bbhere which barely even works.

It doesnt show anything like placing lava, placing water, using flint/steel. and the records it does show are back to front, so the latest stuff goes flying off the top of the page. i'm sure if you told us what other logging mods are available to install we'd say "how about try that one?"

not a lot else WE can do.
 
I've never said you were a bad admin Gar and I appreciate that you can't be here all the time. Hence why I think regular players who actually had some powers would be a good idea. Try it out for a week, if it's no good then don't do it. I also had no idea Windle was away either. :)
 
peterattheboro said:
If someone wants to grief then they arent going to do it when its busy or when people are near them. And how hard is it to check the server logs which have been mentioned on numerous occasions?

If there's been some damage and we don't know who then that would be an appropriate to use the logs to find out who the griefer is and ban them.
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The logs are nearly impossible to use as they are absolutely massive. Each player has their own one and every single thing is logged, everything. With the amount of players we have it's an impossibility to track down.

Fur, other players with powers won't fix the problem as Gar has pointed out. They have to be caught in the act.
 
KingAdora said:
i don't think anyone is giving you grief about the server being up or down or mc.net being up or down. people are concerned that no admining takes place on the server, and the only thing WE have to catch griefers is bbhere which barely even works.

It doesnt show anything like placing lava, placing water, using flint/steel. and the records it does show are back to front, so the latest stuff goes flying off the top of the page. i'm sure if you told us what other logging mods are available to install we'd say "how about try that one?"

not a lot else WE can do.
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Really? Then why is there constant "I can't login to the server, is it down?" when it's known that mc verification is flakey atm. Go back a few pages and I posted a reply to something else and instantly got someone quoting me saying "Windle, I can't connect".

There is limits to how griefing can be controlled. Whitelist helps but even longstanding players in the past have been caught as griefers so it can't even just be the case of removing new players.

As above, see the logs issue with regards to how it's nearly impossible for admins to track down griefers. Especially withthe number of players we have.

Until Multiplay switch to bukkit and there is a reliable version of it with support for bbhere type plugins it's going to be the way.
 
Constant whine generally coming from new players I think. :p And by god gober I hope I got those trees in time..
 
When you restart the server, can you give us a little more time to get prepared instead of doing it in less that 3 seconds :p

Or is it non changeable?
 
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