OcUK Nvidia RTX series review thread

[razorpakk]

Although 970s were so efficient that even a bare die might have been enough XD

 

[Distracted]

All the cards out right now are based on the reference pcbs with standard or custom cooling.

It will be interesting to see what gains, if any, can be made once custom pcbs plus cooling are out.

 

[spikerules]

by the time games use this rt and dlss your card will be old .. major uptake if it happens will be gen 2-3 after the playstation / xbox take it on ..
so atm and prob for the next 3-4 yrs it's worthless

But who is saying they will? We don’t know if AMD are making cards with RT features and AMD have cornered the console market.

 

[razorpakk]

All the cards out right now are based on the reference pcbs with standard or custom cooling.

It will be interesting to see what gains, if any, can be made once custom pcbs plus cooling are out.

Has custom PCB ever really meant anything for gamers?

I had 10 different models of 980Ti, from the simple Inno 3D ones to Gaming X and HoF. It was all kind of the same.

 

[spikerules]

Anyone seen any temps for the EVGA 2080Ti XC Ultra? The only place i've seen one reviewed is Jayztwocents and he doesn't mention the temps, only that the FE has a bad cooler design because of airflow between the pcb and heatsink.

Edit - https://youtu.be/DgSwJROXeEo

 

[razorpakk]

Anyone seen any temps for the EVGA 2080Ti XC Ultra? The only place i've seen one reviewed is Jayztwocents and he doesn't mention the temps, only that the FE has a bad cooler design because of airflow between the pcb and heatsink.

Edit - https://youtu.be/DgSwJROXeEo

Jay looked pretty silly with that video, as GamersNexus showed, there's no need for airflow to the PCB as the vapour chamber takes care of everything.

 

[Distracted]

Jay looked pretty silly with that video, as GamersNexus showed, there's no need for airflow to the PCB as the vapour chamber takes care of everything.

I thought Jay said that the issue was that there wasn't enough exhaust space. Exhaust is blocked on the bottom by the mobo and the top in the centre by the card shroud. Then there's the 2 x 8 pin connectors which further restrict airflow along the top.

Iirc he said that its their best design yet gimped by poor airflow because of these restrictions and he was seeing much cooler temps by comparison on the non stock coolers.

I don't think making the point about the airflow restriction makes him look silly. I looked at the card and thought to myself "that looks great, but where does the hot air exhaust?"

I could be wrong about this but that was my takeaway.

 

[MrRockliffe]

Blimey, Far Cry 5 on Guru3D's review is heavily CPU bottlenecked at 1080P and still a little at 1440P.

Edit: Destiny 2 as well

 

[VincentHanna]

I thought Jay said that the issue was that there wasn't enough exhaust space. Exhaust is blocked on the bottom by the mobo and the top in the centre by the card shroud. Then there's the 2 x 8 pin connectors which further restrict airflow along the top.

Iirc he said that its their best design yet gimped by poor airflow because of these restrictions and he was seeing much cooler temps by comparison on the non stock coolers.

I don't think making the point about the airflow restriction makes him look silly. I looked at the card and thought to myself "that looks great, but where does the hot air exhaust?"

I could be wrong about this but that was my takeaway.

Yep, he literally said that the non-stock coolers were 10-15°C cooler

 

[Wrinkly]

This is false. You may not like the price increases but it doesn't give you the right to spread misinfo. Refer to this chart in future:

Only people buying reference cards are those who are water cooling, or those who don't have a clue. Ignore the reference comparison charts.

 

[razorpakk]

I hope we keep the thread alive, in the coming days most people will be wondering which AIB to buy.

 

[loftie]

P.S i bet you can't name 3 games the 1080ti beats the 2080 for fps in 1440p or 4k.

Looking at this nice post from Anand forums where someone has got together some TPU benches from an MSI 1080Ti Gaming x Trio vs an MSI 2080 Gaming X Trio @ 1440p

GTA 5
Deus Ex
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Sniper Elite 4

 

[mingey]

Looking at this nice post from Anand forums where someone has got together some TPU benches from an MSI 1080Ti Gaming x Trio vs an MSI 2080 Gaming X Trio @ 1440p

GTA 5
Deus Ex
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Sniper Elite 4

Maybe read the thread and not cherry pick ? as the usual practice lately,

Taken from said page : Or the FE 1080 Ti throttled more in the 2080 review. The room could have been a lot hotter with a marathon benchmark session.

The important thing is at max OC both in other reviews, the cards perform identical.

 

[loftie]

Maybe read the thread and not cherry pick ? as the usual practice lately

Man asks for 3 games that a 1080Ti beats a 2080. Man supplies said results, that man is cherry picking. What?
Maybe read what I quoted and am responding to first. He asked "name me three games that the 1080Ti beats a 2080 in FPS at 1440p and 4k". I'm not going to name games where it loses am I because that goes against what he asked doesn't it?

Taken from said page : Or the FE 1080 Ti throttled more in the 2080 review. The room could have been a lot hotter with a marathon benchmark session.

I'm not comparing FE results, I'm comparing aftermarket cards.

The important thing is at max OC both in other reviews, the cards perform identical.

Are we arguing the same point?

 

[fastboy]

mans not hot

 

[Phixsator]

Maybe read the thread and not cherry pick ? as the usual practice lately,

Taken from said page : Or the FE 1080 Ti throttled more in the 2080 review. The room could have been a lot hotter with a marathon benchmark session.

The important thing is at max OC both in other reviews, the cards perform identical.

How about you follow your own advice? if you look at the actual review you would see the only overclocking results are from heaven.. how on earth does that qualify as sufficient?

 

[loftie]

mans not hot

Oh god, what did I do?!

 

[fastboy]

nothing matey

however you did supply facts and some people only work on feelings

 

[LambChop]

Linus tech tips had developer of game with RTX tech in it lined up to provide a beta preview which then mysteriously gets cancelled?

Methinks Linus is right when he says Nvidia are selling cards, by their very name, with a feature that isn't ready and I personally suspect one that won't ever provide a particularly acceptable experience in the `2000` series hardware.

Linus is absolutely correct, he knows it and we know it.

nVidia gave a glaring admission way back when they justified the price cost premium of g-sync. They said they only sell at a price point what people are prepared to pay. Not only do they know people will pay that, they have it confirmed with the amount of pre-orders and even then with pre-orders with absolutely zero benchmarks etc. This round, nVidia are nothing short of greedy scum.

 

[LePhuronn]

We don’t know if AMD are making cards with RT features...

Navi is too close to get anything for dedicated RT, but if there's sufficient uptake of RTX hardware AND game devs supporting it, I would entirely expect AMD to grab copies of the ray tracing APIs Nvidia are accessing and get something together for the "next-gen" GPU arch in 2020. Hell, if the 7nm Vega Instinct performs as suggested, AMD could well have their own supercomputing ability to do their own version of DLSS too.

Assuming, of course, they haven't already started.