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You might find that real money tourney's are a lot harder.
I personally hate tourneys because you can get all your money in pre-flop with AA and still leave without a penny.
Nothing like knowing when you are beat
add up how much he left himself with
PokerStars Game #42628102856: Tournament #262683320, $42907646.51+$42038.45+$1.00 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2010/04/14 0:01:21 WET [2010/04/13 19:01:21 ET]
Table '262683320 1' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: tryxtoxwin (873 in chips)
Seat 5: Rotty66 (8127 in chips)
tryxtoxwin: posts the ante 25
Rotty66: posts the ante 25
tryxtoxwin: posts small blind 200
Rotty66: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rotty66 [8h Kh]
tryxtoxwin: calls 200
Rotty66: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah 6h 7h]
Rotty66: checks
tryxtoxwin: checks
*** TURN *** [Ah 6h 7h] [5h]
Rotty66: checks
tryxtoxwin: bets 400
Rotty66: raises 400 to 800
tryxtoxwin: folds
Uncalled bet (400) returned to Rotty66
Rotty66 collected 1650 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1650 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 6h 7h 5h]
Seat 3: tryxtoxwin (button) (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: Rotty66 (big blind) collected (1650)
Any reason you didn't call and let him fire on the river?
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You have an interesting Sharkscope as well
bizarre ain't it, variance is me
my prob was playing while ****ed
the 2 big downslopes have been down to me getting smashed and going on a multi tabling frenzy when I prob couldnt play 1 table ( for about 2 days at a go
) I need to get some discipline over game choice and when to play, as you can see recently when I do concentrate my results are good, this also shows in my live play, where you obviously concentrate, my ROI has been over 100% for last 2 years
blairw, watch the WSOP on youtube, look what the pros do, some good commentary on it. Also check out High Stakes Poker, its in its 6th season now, the commentator usually talks you through the hands. Most of it is just experiance, learning what cards to bluff, learning to slow play if you have for example J J and flop J 2 5, if you bet you've obviously got a J so you'd be lucky to get a call seeing as 3 of the 4 J are already out, it's unlikely another player has the remaining one.
Stuff like this which is easy to fall down on. I don't usually bluff if I'm first to act becuase you may have 3-4 people left to act which can very easily of hit something.
Just google poker tactics or soemthing, sure a good site will come up.
Stuff like this which is easy to fall down on. I don't usually bluff if I'm first to act becuase you may have 3-4 people left to act which can very easily of hit something.
Just google poker tactics or soemthing, sure a good site will come up.
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John skalansky (not sure of spelling
) how to beat crush low limit poker. Even if you play NL this book has the VERY bare basics of any poker.Remember poker takes 10 mins to understand and a lifetime to master blah blah
Even if you don't but the book check out starting hands tables ,again most are for Limit poker but similar apply to NL
John skalansky (not sure of spelling
Remember poker takes 10 mins to understand and a lifetime to master blah blah
Even if you don't but the book check out starting hands tables ,again most are for Limit poker but similar apply to NL
I would say that the differences in NL and Limit are big enough that it would be a mistake to try and learn one first and then transfer what you have learned to the other
From Sklansky's book I would recommend "no limit hold 'em theory and practice"
WSOP and HSP (especially HSP) are great entertainment but I'd take them with a pinch of salt strategy wise. The WSOP is packed with amateurs which is the reason most pros refer to it as a minefield. Norman Chad's commentary legendary tho so definately watch it for the lulz. (I think the first poker braodcast I ever watched was the 2006 WSOP, so I guess it's good at getting you interested in the game!)
HSP on the other hand does have it's fair share of good players (Ivey, Dwan, Benyamine, etc) and you can pick up a decent understanding of the game from it, however some of Gabe's commentary might put you into bad habits, as he's always going on about betting and raising "to find out where you're at" when in reality none of the good players ever do this. He does make some pretty good jokes tho so just listen selectively. The good thing about Norman Chad on the WSOP coverage is that he recognises he doesn't have a clue about strategy, and just sticks to making wise-cracks.
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For the love of God, if you're a beginner at poker do NOT watch professionals and emulate their play.
This. Sklansky's Theory of Poker and No Limit Theory and Practice are the first couple books any beginner should read imo
Depends what type of game you will be playing (cash/tournament), but since you mention it's with friends I guess it's a tournament? Check out the Harrington On Holdem books, very good for a beginner. If you're seriously interested in learning some poker skills, sign up for some video training sites, DuecesCracked is my personal favourite. Also post some hands where you're unsure about the line you took onto poker forums and ask for advice.
Gabe Kaplan's analysis is a complete joke. I used to find him funny, but I think he's lost a lot of that since AJ left the show. He's very much an old school player that doesn't quite understand what's going on in the modern game imo. I was cringing in the last two episodes when he was talking about "raising for information" or "betting to see where you are at", like in that hand where Negreanu had JJ on a QTx flop he thought Negreanu should lead to get some info about his opponents hand... lol!
FYP.
This. A million times this. This is literally the most important peice of knowledge you can gain when starting poker.
Not only will you not apply the things you may learn from watching the pros correctly, but at low stakes online games, people aren't thinking on this level. You can try and be smart and think "Right, i've got nothing but I'm going to bet big and represent that I hit a flush", but the other guy 9 times out of 10 is going to be thinking "Cool, I saw the flop with J5o and I got a pair of fives! WOOO"
Books:
Elements of Poker by Tommy Angelo
Ryan Fee's 2p2NL6max (Google it, downloadable ebook)
Sign up to the 2+2 forums and read the stickied threads (Google twoplustwo)
DON'T read any 'Pro' books for the most part. Phil Hellmuth's offerings are junk, Doyle Brunson's Super System is very old. A classic maybe, but it was released in 1979 or something and the game has changed a lot since then.
Basically anything written by TV Pros is worthless at low stakes, they're either too general, too specific to high stakes games where players are on a higher level of thought, or are just there to make money from the name on the cover RE: Hellmuth.
And again most importantly, think one level higher than your opponent, not more. If he's only thinking about what cards he has, you can bluff all you like but he's not thinking about that.
WSOP Final Table: Entertaining, Not Educational
lol - very funny
Because it's not as popular, and it's harder to pick up so the competition is tougher. If you're good enough to be competant at PLO then you would be out there exploiting the more profitable fields of NLH players.
Explains why there's no games.
Explains why there's no games.