OCUK pre built PC to replace xbox

[beachBOYken]

Hello

Early next year Im tempted to get a PC to replace my series x, I primarily play MSFS 2020 and now 2024 (the latter is a bit of a state though currently) and the odd exclusive like Indiana Jones.

I have a fairly large tv cabinet which comfortably fits my ps5 and series x with a lot space to spare still.

I have no idea if replacing my series x for a pc is a wise decision or not, I want it be a simple straight swap if you like, hooking up to my 55" LG CX via hdmi. In a way my series x feels like a PC as I use a mouse and flight stick with it to play msfs.

Im looking at the prebuilt options on OCUK but not sure what spec I need to run MSFS, also it will be used upstairs and my only option is wifi, so it needs to have solid wifi connectivity. Never had issues with wifi upstairs, just unsure how a desktop will do over wifi.

Budget is around £1500 give or take, and want something that I can upgrade when time comes if need be, presume all have the option to upgrade RAM, GPU.

Can anyone spec a pre built please from OCUK.

Thank you

 

[Ad_Augendae]

Food for thought, a test just to the router. PC1 and PC2 are wifi clients, Network Cable is a gaming PC.
Why would you do that ?


WiFi 6 PC1
status: udp download
time-remaining: 18s
ping-min-avg-max: 1.79ms / 2.49ms / 10.7ms
jitter-min-avg-max: 1us / 501us / 8.38ms
loss: 0% (0/200)
tcp-download: 810Mbps local-cpu-load:80%
tcp-upload: 819Mbps local-cpu-load:45% remote-cpu-load:0%

WiFi6 PC2
status: udp download
time-remaining: 16s
ping-min-avg-max: 1.63ms / 1.96ms / 9.12ms
jitter-min-avg-max: 1us / 240us / 7.28ms
loss: 0% (0/200)
tcp-download: 694Mbps local-cpu-load:70%
tcp-upload: 635Mbps local-cpu-load:38% remote-cpu-load:2%

Network Cable
status: udp download
time-remaining: 22s
ping-min-avg-max: 359us / 419us / 979us
jitter-min-avg-max: 0s / 43us / 578us
loss: 0% (0/200)
tcp-download: 939Mbps local-cpu-load:50%
tcp-upload: 933Mbps local-cpu-load:60% remote-cpu-load:2%

 

[beachBOYken]

Sorry you lost me, why would I do what?

 

[mickyflinn]

For your money these 2 Overclockers prebuilts are suitable for 1440p gaming.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-rapier-amd-ryzen-5-7600-geforce-rtx-4070-super-gaming-pc-fs-122-og.html

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[Craig_d1]

Can anyone spec a pre built please from OCUK.

Thank you

I know you want a prebuiild, but you'll be looking at around £300 more than building yourself. If you can follow lego instructions, you can build a pc...it looks daunting but as long as you're slow and steady, you'll be fine. Only saying as a prebuild is 20% of your budget going to someone else. You'll be playing at 4k, so that £300 is the difference from a 4070super to as 4080super....which are £100 more than 2 weeks ago anyway....I'm sure they're driving the price up so when they release the new cards in Jan, it'll be at parity or a slight increase, and they can go...look, almost the same price

so with new cards arriving, or at least being announced in Jan, it's not really worth looking now..when the new cards are released, the older ones should drop in price, making a pick now irrelevant

What I'd do is make sure you get your 16 or so posts (if you haven't done already) so you can access the MM.

So rest of the system...being MSFS, you'll want to aim for a AM5 x3d cpu ...this is why i suggest MM, and try and pick up a 7800X3D. flight sim loves the 3d v cache. I'd also pair it with a nvidia gpu, as dlss works very well on it and also Frame gen also works incredibly well, as the game isn't really fast paced, and is ideal for it

being 4k tv, if you can get your hands on a 2nd hand 4080s you'll be doing well..4070ti super with 16gb vram also not a bad shout...a 4070ti 12gb went recently for £500 which is a lot better than getting a standard 4070...sure they'll be a flurry of high end cards being sold when the new ones drop. (5090 and 5080 1st cards released..you may have to wait a couple months for lesser ones)

stick with 32gb 6000c30 ram...FS been tested with 64gb..makes no real difference and the £80 price difference stick on the gpu

white or black case..want so lights or descrete? Am on a 48" LGC4 with an o11d next to me and rgb fans..I quite like the light it gives, as rest of room is dark, so at least i can see my keyboard and mouse properly

 

[beachBOYken]

I know you want a prebuiild, but you'll be looking at around £300 more than building yourself. If you can follow lego instructions, you can build a pc...it looks daunting but as long as you're slow and steady, you'll be fine. Only saying as a prebuild is 20% of your budget going to someone else. You'll be playing at 4k, so that £300 is the difference from a 4070super to as 4080super....which are £100 more than 2 weeks ago anyway....I'm sure they're driving the price up so when they release the new cards in Jan, it'll be at parity or a slight increase, and they can go...look, almost the same price

so with new cards arriving, or at least being announced in Jan, it's not really worth looking now..when the new cards are released, the older ones should drop in price, making a pick now irrelevant

What I'd do is make sure you get your 16 or so posts (if you haven't done already) so you can access the MM.

So rest of the system...being MSFS, you'll want to aim for a AM5 x3d cpu ...this is why i suggest MM, and try and pick up a 7800X3D. flight sim loves the 3d v cache. I'd also pair it with a nvidia gpu, as dlss works very well on it and also Frame gen also works incredibly well, as the game isn't really fast paced, and is ideal for it

being 4k tv, if you can get your hands on a 2nd hand 4080s you'll be doing well..4070ti super with 16gb vram also not a bad shout...a 4070ti 12gb went recently for £500 which is a lot better than getting a standard 4070...sure they'll be a flurry of high end cards being sold when the new ones drop. (5090 and 5080 1st cards released..you may have to wait a couple months for lesser ones)

stick with 32gb 6000c30 ram...FS been tested with 64gb..makes no real difference and the £80 price difference stick on the gpu

white or black case..want so lights or descrete? Am on a 48" LGC4 with an o11d next to me and rgb fans..I quite like the light it gives, as rest of room is dark, so at least i can see my keyboard and mouse properly

Thanks, not In a rush anyway, I might consider this, but prebuilt just tempts me more, I have built a pc before and I remember something coming loose where I hadn’t secured it correctly, can’t remember what part as it was years ago.
What sort of prebuilt should I be looking at that meets most of what you mentioned, if ocuk do such one?

 

[Threepwood]

Im tempted to get a PC to replace my series

here is your best bang for buck
My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x OcUK Gaming Mach 3 - Ryzen 5700X3D, RTX 4070 Super Pre-Built Gaming PC (SKU: FS-PB07-EP) = £1,299.95

Total: £1,299.95 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[beachBOYken]

here is your best bang for buck
My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x OcUK Gaming Mach 3 - Ryzen 5700X3D, RTX 4070 Super Pre-Built Gaming PC (SKU: FS-PB07-EP) = £1,299.95

Total: £1,299.95 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

I saw that one, but wasn't sure how upgradable it was, can it be uodgraded in the future like GPU and RAM?

Also, not having had a desktop for so long, is all the airflow at the back of the tower?, so thats where some space is important? , it's going in a large tv cabinet and I would need to remove the back of the cabinet to allow more airflow, its only an Ikea one so its not hard to do.

 

[beachBOYken]

If I upped my budget how would you guys rate the following, anything you would change primarily for MSFS2024?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-sabre-intel-i7-13700f-rtx-4070-super-gaming-pc-fs-1fa-og.html?configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B416239%5D%5Bsku%5D=CA-07P-KK&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417302%5D%5Bsku%5D=CP-6BD-IN&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417303%5D%5Bsku%5D=MY-29H-KS&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B416238%5D%5Bsku%5D=GRA-GNW-01537&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B416468%5D%5Bsku%5D=HS-005-KK&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B416465%5D%5Bsku%5D=HD-58F-WD&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B416467%5D%5Bsku%5D=&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B416466%5D%5Bsku%5D=&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417224%5D%5Bsku%5D=&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B413859%5D%5Bsku%5D=SW-18N-MS&configurator_state_form%5B_token%5D=67b198.RVFIo9LPCUmamwNEmwl4QFIJ9LpQwsBl-UUZs6cKH7o.L3xxy6b4eHyr7HEJ13E8Cjdwm94xsqEhoBF8__NIUdd8ZB7UkLhQAK3cOw&configurator_state_form%5BgroupKey%5D=

 

[Ad_Augendae]

I was trying to understand why you would use WiFi for gaming with all the Jitter/ping lag you would get vs using a cable!
Get the SN850X Instead and 2TB or even better still a 4TB for all your games.
Lad just bought his first PC....
Rapier with the following config, you could chuck an 9800X3D in there at a later stage for a 15% increase in performance, or as said wait till the new stuff to arrive.


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K0-AS) = £169.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £179.99
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge 12Gb Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-01499) = £529.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Indiana Jones and The Great Circle Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03769) = £0.00
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £82.99
• 1 x Kolink Unity Meshbay ARGB Midi Tower Case - Black Window (SKU: CA-082-KK) = £74.99
• 1 x Kolink Umbra Void AIO 240mm Performance ARGB CPU Water Cooler (SKU: HS-005-KK) = £72.95
• 1 x WD Black SN770 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58F-WD) = £62.99
• 1 x WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS400T2X0E) (SKU: HD-592-WD) = £242.99
• 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632) (SKU: SW-18J-MS) = £107.98
• 1 x Ducky One 3 Classic Fullsize USB RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Cherry Brown - Black UK Layout (SKU: CA-23T-AE) = £89.99
• 1 X Aerocool Integrator Gold 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-23T-AE) = £89.99
  

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Total: £1,704.84 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[beachBOYken]

I was trying to understand why you would use WiFi for gaming with all the Jitter/ping lag you would get vs using a cable!
Get the SN850X Instead and 2TB or even better still a 4TB for all your games.
Lad just bought his first PC....
Rapier with the following config, you could chuck an 9800X3D in there at a later stage for a 10% increase in performance, or as said wait till the new stuff to arrive.

I see, I game over wifi now and not had issues with xbox/ps5, wifi is my only option at present. Thanks for the basket, 2tb is plenty for me, was also thinking Ryzen 7800x3d. Using your basket I switched up a few things, not sure if I can get the price down with different brands. Would the below work If I decided to build my own.





My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K0-AS) = £169.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £479.99
• 1 x Gainward GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER Panther OC 16GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics (SKU: GRA-GNW-01536) = £799.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £82.99
• 1 x Kolink Unity Meshbay ARGB Midi Tower Case - Black Window (SKU: CA-082-KK) = £74.99
• 1 x Kolink Umbra Void AIO 240mm Performance ARGB CPU Water Cooler (SKU: HS-005-KK) = £72.95
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £104.99
• 1 x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632) (SKU: SW-18J-MS) = £107.99
• 1 X Aerocool Integrator Gold 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-23T-AE) = £89.99

Total: £1,893.88 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[mickyflinn]

Here's my take , 7800x3d change to 9800x3d if available 4070super build.

Windows keys can be had for £10

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £479.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03573) = £134.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB EXPO (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02786) = £89.98
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £104.99
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 750W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02517) = £84.95
• 1 x Kolink Umbra EX180 ARGB CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: HS-000-KK) = £19.99
• 1 x Antec CX700 Elite RGB Mid Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02736) = £59.95
• 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Dual EVO 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ASU-02141) = £569.99

Total: £1,544.83 (includes delivery: £0.
00)​

 

[Threepwood]

is all the airflow at the back of the tower?

top and rear going by the fan locations

 

[Threepwood]

@beachBOYken
P.s from everything that i've seen here thus far, MSFS loves x3d cpus, and lots of ram! it should be considered a highly modified game basically, so at least 32GB ram, but prefereably 64GB.
@beachBOYken

 

[beachBOYken]

Here's my take , 7800x3d change to 9800x3d if available 4070super build.

Windows keys can be had for £10

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £479.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03573) = £134.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 32GB EXPO (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-02786) = £89.98
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £104.99
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 750W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02517) = £84.95
• 1 x Kolink Umbra EX180 ARGB CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: HS-000-KK) = £19.99
• 1 x Antec CX700 Elite RGB Mid Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02736) = £59.95
• 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Dual EVO 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ASU-02141) = £569.99

Total: £1,544.83 (includes delivery: £0.​

00)​

Oh much better price, that looks like it will be good for MSFS.

When I buy all these components does it give clear instructions on how to install and install in what order? I did build one before many moons ago and can’t remember where I got the instructions from.

I also might buy in stages and take my time, so not sure what order to order in.

 

[mickyflinn]

Oh much better price, that looks like it will be good for MSFS.

When I buy all these components does it give clear instructions on how to install and install in what order? I did build one before many moons ago and can’t remember where I got the instructions from.

I also might buy in stages and take my time, so not sure what order to order in.

Buying in stages depending on time can be a pitfall if problems arrise , after so long you can't return it for a refund leaving you waiting for a replacement if stock isn't available. Best to save up then go all in unless you get a cracking deal on something.

Comparing your spec to mine you have a 4070ti super which is a faster GPU than the 4070 super, but no power supply so bare that in mind. The memory in my build has tighter timmings also which I would get

There are lots of tutorials on YouTube and the motherboard manual will walk you threw the build so read it is what I always advise. Most other things like the cooler will usually come with paste and fitting instructions if not if to YouTube again.
If you've built pcs before not much has changed the only pain is RGB imo.

If you get a 9800x3d you probably will need to update the bios to get it working this can be done with a bios flash button on the motherboard that's another thing you should look into .

Makes sure you've got windows downloaded to a usb ready for install you can purchase a key and add it anytime.

Download Windows 11

Also first boot on AM5 can take up to 15 mins for anything to show on screen and may reboot a few times this is because the motherboard is training the memory so be patient.

Put together a final list your happy with and we can all check it for you.

 

[Craig_d1]

9800x3d in there rather than a 7800x3d...paying that much might as well get the best. put a 4070ti super in there with the 4k gaming. the extra 4gb vram should help with 4k textures etc
the 9800x3d uses more power than the 7800x3d, and can draw 150w..if going that route I'd get the peerless assassin air cooler below..twin tower heat sink so excelllent cooling for air at price..the arctic 36freezer works very well too..going aio, I'd look at the thermalright aqua elete or frozen notte 360mm's for £50 or £69

That being said, after black fri week, prices have shot up...I would wait before pulling trigger on anything, esp gpu. 9800x3d is preorder so could order that..price seems to be going 1 way only at mo and don't think amd can keep up with demand, esp with intel launch failure
the asus 850W psu is good price though..10 yrs warranty and atx3.0 compliant..preorder again



My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £509.99
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4070 TI Super Trinity OC 16GB PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ZTC-02851) = £799.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03573) = £134.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance RGB EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel (SKU: MEM-CRS-00997) = £89.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £89.98
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £104.99
• 1 x Antec C3 ARGB Midi Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02727) = £79.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.99

Total: £1,851.90 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

 

[hornetstinger]

Always better to build your own, it's hardly difficult, just watch lots of videos how to put it together. Most "tricky" is details which noobs might get wrong or forget is front panel header ports, the invididual two pin connectors etc.

There's youtube and forums, or if you have a mate that knows his stuff let him watch/skpe video call whilst your're building. And I suppose getting bootable ISO ready, BIOS setting etc, you might need an existing PC to download/burn the ISO.

PC's are dead easy, back when I started no youtube, no forums, there was BBS or newsgroups but you needed a PC to get into it first. It was trial by error learning.

 

[Mojo24]

You could always go with an Amd graphic card to save money

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[Threepwood]

clear instructions on how to install and install in what order?

lots of build tutorials on youtube nowadays