OCUK RTX4060TI review thread

[uscool]

When you say they do you mean anyone specifically? Because IMO more than one reviewer seems to have leaned to heavily into Nvidia's positive PR spin and lost a certain degree of objectivity.

I think you're being overly positive myself, yes it has lower power usage and it's the cheapest so far but those aren't redeeming qualities IMO, it's a 4050 Ti in all but name for $400. You'd expect such a low end card to sip power and just because it's the cheapest SKU it doesn't change the fact that Nvidia are asking $400 for a card that at most should cost half that.

yes they aint the only ones also dont wanna risk not receiving a press pack next product launch

 

[humbug]

yes they aint the only ones also dont wanna risk not receiving a press pack next product launch

I think the most honest review was from Gamers Nexus, as they keep saying they don't care, they can afford to buy them if they don't get press packs.

They aren't the only ones, i don't think its just press packs, there is more to it that that, even LTT, the largest channel of all of them tried to put a positive spin on these cards.
There is a difference between not receiving press packs and shares, for example. you can't pay 15 people and run a large office from press packs and Youtube ad revenue.

 

[Hawk Tuah]

This is not theoretical anything, it's the actual numbers. Every generation is split up into multiple chips, f.ex. AD102, 103 etc. The biggest chip has a certain # of cores which is that generation's maximum (the perfect die is usually only used for the professional cards, but the x90/ti can come very close). The exact cut of a chip that goes into a particular model, i.e an x60 etc, changes every generation based on manufacturing defects, marketing strategy etc. What the chart shows is an increase in price with every new generation for a proportionally equivalent share of cores, f.ex the card that had near 25% of maximum cores in Turing gen was the 1650 Super (27.8%) and it cost $159. For Lovelace it's 4060 Ti (23.6%) and it costs $399. That's all.

But for the current 4xxx generation, the 4090 is the top. Adding this speculative card skews your table and makes any conclusions you derive from it baseless.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

Have to hand it to nvidia, almost half the rops and memory bandwidth along with lower shader count, 8x pcie the 4060 ti holds up to the 3060ti. Thats quite an achievement for profiteering with a core thats costs probably less than half of what it takes to make the 3060ti.
Money in the bank.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

Waiting for gibbos post to get the hype train flowing

Good news, nvidia have heard the cries for more vram and now word is the 4050 will come with 12gb standard

 

[Troezar]

There are a lot of disingenuous people running around touting the "low power use" of the 40 series, of course they use less power they are a lower tier card and smaller chip!

 

[Troezar]

Good news, nvidia have heard the cries for more vram and now word is the 4050 will come with 12gb standard

Reminds me of the trend to put big alloys and tyres on small, cheap cars. All it does it cost you a packet when you need to get new ones, all for show and does nothing for go.

 

[RavenXXX2]

For me it looks like they think no gamer should have a good card under £1200.

I still think the 4070 and 4070Ti are shocking for the price they are selling them at. We are used to getting x80 series level of performance between £600 and £800.

You bought a 3090 mate, pipe down lol.

 

[humbug]

Have to hand it to nvidia, almost half the rops and memory bandwidth along with lower shader count, 8x pcie the 4060 ti holds up to the 3060ti. Thats quite an achievement for profiteering with a core thats costs probably less than half of what it takes to make the 3060ti.
Money in the bank.

Steve Burke put it best, its a 3060Ti with an overclock for 3060Ti money 2.5 years later.

He also said if it wasn't for the fact that it had AV1 he would not believe it was not a 3060Ti.

 

[xrob]

I would actually prefer a 3060 over this card, it’s a more balanced product.

 

[humbug]

His video was ####### helarious, every game chart had him screaming things like "A MASSIVE 2.6% FASTER THAN THE 3060Ti, AMAZING"

 

[Quartz]

I'm disappointed that the likes of Techpowerup and JayzTwoCents are backtracking so much. They should have the courage to stand by their words and we the audience should respect that they have come to conclusions different from our own.

 

[humbug]

I'm disappointed that the likes of Techpowerup and JayzTwoCents are backtracking so much. They should have the courage to stand by their words and we the audience should respect that they have come to conclusions different from our own.

As Jay said it creates a credibility problem.

When its that obvious you're trying to polish a turd you lose that credibility over night.

The problem these reviewers now have is these GPU's, and particularly this one, are just so bad its no longer possible to polish it without looking like a complete idiot or a shill.

For them that's where they are at now.

 

[rare]

I'm disappointed that the likes of Techpowerup and JayzTwoCents are backtracking so much. They should have the courage to stand by their words and we the audience should respect that they have come to conclusions different from our own.

You can have a different conclusion but it’s not easy to sincerely award a product or be overwhelmingly positive about it when your own data shows is essentially no better than it’s two and half year old predecessor…

 

[Aegis]

He also said if it wasn't for the fact that it had AV1 he would not believe it was not a 3060Ti.

He's just being silly - you can easily tell...

 

[Cyber-Mav]

I'm disappointed that the likes of Techpowerup and JayzTwoCents are backtracking so much. They should have the courage to stand by their words and we the audience should respect that they have come to conclusions different from our own.

Agree, insted of shilling for the manufacturer this time they shilling for the consumer. Either way their reviews and opinions are coerced by an outside source.

 

[TNA]

You bought a 3090 mate, pipe down lol.

Coming from you, that is almost comedy gold Raven

 

[humbug]

You can say its worth this much because it has these features, that works.

What Nvidia want now is to sell those features as the primary value of the product, a $200 product with $200 of added value in features, DLSS.

The former inevitably leads to the latter. That is the whole mission creep, its why i have been warring of it for the past two years, and here we are.

 

[subbytna]

I wonder how it would've been received if it was released as a 4050 Ti with a $400 price tag.

That's what it is....a 4050Ti card rebranded as a 4060Ti.

Same as 4070Ti was initially a 4080 before they capitulated.

AMD did similar with the 7900XT and called it that instead of the proper 7800XT that it should have been.

 

[prav]

You can say its worth this much because it has these features, that works.

What Nvidia want now is to sell those features as the primary value of the product, a $200 product with $200 of added value in features, DLSS.

The former inevitably leads to the latter. That is the whole mission creep, its why i have been warring of it for the past two years, and here we are.

Yeah it was telling what some nvidia rep said to GamersNexus, comparing DLSS 3 frame gen with traction control on a car, as if they both make the product faster in the same way, and as if DLSS 3 works 100% of the time the way it does in the most effective implementations. They want to sell the cards as if they're actually as fast as they appear with all the software tricks turned on in flight simulator or whatever is the best case scenario.

He's just being silly - you can easily tell...

Has anyone seen a video/article doing a proper test of the thing running in a PCI-E 3.0 system yet? Der8auer sort of simulated it by running at 4x pci-e 4.0 I guess but it'd be interesting to see more detail.