OcUK RX5700 and RX5700XT review thread

[JediFragger]

fact is NVidia's 2 year old 1080ti was a beast of a card, and it can still beat navi.

1080Ti was almost a mistake on nVidia's part, such a good card and pricing (non-mining at least). We got spoilt

 

[JediFragger]

But did Steve from GamersNexus say, "this is actually one of the worst stock coolers we have ever worked with". He did with the 5700XT cooler

Hang on, he said that about the 5700XT? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.....................

 

[TheRealDeal]

Can we not just agree that blower coolers are terrible compared to a good AIB. That is the reality whether it's Nvidia or AMD. AMD's do tend to be worse than Nvidia's but both sides blowers are usually not ideal. People usually only get blowers because they are what's available at launch or for water.

 

[Mauller]

RDNA shows massive improvements over GCN in games that GCN traditionally fell far behind in.

 

[Martini1991]

Can we not just agree that blower coolers are terrible compared to a good AIB. That is the reality whether it's Nvidia or AMD. AMD's do tend to be worse than Nvidia's but both sides blowers are usually not ideal. People usually only get blowers because they are what's available at launch or for water.

Blowers can be more than good enough though.
Nobody's holding AMD to gunpoint to end up with gimped reviews because they won't change their cooler.

If 5700XT had better cooling the reviews would be more positive in that regard.

It's not rocket science.

 

[shankly1985]

RDNA shows massive improvements over GCN in games that GCN traditionally fell far behind in.

Am more than impressed with the results of Navi 5700 XT just need to wait for the AIB now. Hopefully its not a long wait and hoping pricing isn't two bad either £380 for Ref I be happy paying £430 its less than what I paid for VEGA 64 at £470

 

[JediFragger]

Am more than impressed with the results of Navi 5700 XT

I'm certainly interested in a possible 64CU version with configurable RT/Raster cores if the chatter is true

 

[Mauller]

I'm certainly interested in a possible 64CU version with configurable RT/Raster cores if the chatter is true

Navi 20/21 is going to be the high core RT part.
There is also still Navi 12 to replace the low end and Navi 14 for entry and APU.

 

[shankly1985]

I'm certainly interested in a possible 64CU version with configurable RT/Raster cores if the chatter is true

Yeah
Navi 20 next year hopefully
I'll pass this Navi 5700 XT down to my nephew.

I bought the ref VEGA 64 because at the time I had the courage to try and custom water cool lol that didn't happen I even bought a water block unused sitting there wasted £100. Might try and sell them both on together haa

 

[Mauller]

Am more than impressed with the results of Navi 5700 XT just need to wait for the AIB now. Hopefully its not a long wait and hoping pricing isn't two bad either £380 for Ref I be happy paying £430 its less than what I paid for VEGA 64 at £470

Yeah, I was more than pleased when I saw the prices. Makes a nice changed compared to them just changing teh dollar sign to a pounds sterling on the msrp.

OCing and better cooled parts will put Navi 10 far closer to a 2070s and VII.

 

[JediFragger]

I bought the ref VEGA 64 because at the time I had the courage to try and custom water cool lol that didn't happen I even bought a water block unused sitting there wasted £100. Might try and sell them both on together haa

Yeah they shine on water, just ask @TonyTurbo78 !!

Another release next Computex seems likely.

 

[Hades]

Yeah, I was more than pleased when I saw the prices. Makes a nice changed compared to them just changing teh dollar sign to a pounds sterling on the msrp.

OCing and better cooled parts will put Navi 10 far closer to a 2070s and VII.

Apparently the VII overclocks extremely well with good cooling. So the Navi's might also, being on 7nm.

 

[Mauller]

Apparently the VII overclocks extremely well with good cooling. So the Navi's might also, being on 7nm.

From what I have been reading, AMD have opened up the boost system to let it hit clocks that even exceed teh rated boost, dependent on power, cooling and silicon lottery.

 

[StarShock]

So from the reviews I've read and watched I find myself agreeing with Steve from gamers nexus "its fine, don't buy one with the stock cooler!"

 

[easyrider]

Why do AMD insist on pants coolers for their gfx cards ?

 

[Mauller]

fact is NVidia's 2 year old 1080ti was a beast of a card, and it can still beat navi.

It's also 3840 cores vs 2560
RDNA is a big improvement over GCN and a 40 cu part keeps up well.

 

[Marine-RX179]

I don't think there is an outcry about performance, just the cooler and the price. There is no point in calling the Nvidia price crap and then calling the AMD price ok?

Depend what you refer as Nvidia and AMD pricing;

(Crap) Nvidia's RTX launch pricing: 2070 at £450~£500+, 2080 at £800+, 2080ti at £1200+
(Awesome) 2070S: Close (enough) to 2080 performance and at £475~£500+
(Good) 2060S: at £380~400+: Decisively beat a stock 5700, but not when the 5700 is overclocked to the same as or beyond the clock speed of the 5700XT, lesser of overclocking headroom than the 2070
(Great) 5700XT: faster than the 2070 and 2060S at £380
(Great) 5700: faster than the 2060 6GB at £330 and with 2GB more vram, lots of overclocking headroom can easily match the 2060S with both end-up trading blow.

As a whole from consumer's POV though rather than just pricing relative to what's currently on the market, ALL the graphic cards could do with another £50 reduction.

 

[Martini1991]

So from the reviews I've read and watched I find myself agreeing with Steve from gamers nexus "its fine, don't buy one with the stock cooler!"

Which is disappointing.
It's an own goal on AMD's half.

 

[Gerard]

I really wish amd and nvidia would both put the final nail in the coffin for blower coolers for gaming centric gpu's, all they do is hamper performance and cause headache.

 

[Poneros]

A more detailed look at the Image Sharpening function:

https://youtu.be/Yi-_T3vsv-Q?t=942