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That is quite impressive! In that video, it wasn't till he said side by side did I notice the line down the middle of the screen. That in itself shows just how good RIS is.
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OcUK RX5700 and RX5700XT review thread
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That is quite impressive! In that video, it wasn't till he said side by side did I notice the line down the middle of the screen. That in itself shows just how good RIS is.
Soldato
It's also 3840 cores vs 2560
RDNA is a big improvement over GCN and a 40 cu part keeps up well.
2 years later, on 7nm not 14nm but still pushing the same PPW as the for mentioned pascal card. Sure its a leap over GCN but its not the Ryzen Style titian shift that AMD GPU's need.
The blower coolers are very bad because they are like magnets for disaster. Imagine what will happen with those 80-90°C when the dust bunnies gather between the small radiator's fins after several weeks of usage?!
I think this type of cooler is the critical minimum which they allow themselves to install.
They care only about their wellness and profit margins, but never honestly care about the customers.
What's the point of dozens of great features if your hardware design blows it all up?
This.
After watching several views, and reading reports.
RTX 2070 Super is my card of choice.
Not into loud AND +90C cards.
One is ok, but not both.
Fair enough however this forum suffers from
double standards. 1080 series, Ti, Titan, Titan X and even the flipping Jedi Titan with glowing Leds which was lit up like a Christmas Tree and cost one squillion pounds - all blowers - £650, £850+
Wow great cards, Nvidia are king !
AMD puts one on their £350 reference card - Burn they at the stake!
Dual fan cards will come soon after launch, you pays your money.....
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I think everyone that are joining the cool club preoccupied with the idea in their heads of stomping AMD has forgotten that before the RTX cards came, all the Nvidia cards stock cooler was a blower cooler (though to be fair, the FE blower cooler could be mistaken to be styled after Apple product, who cares if the card is hitting 80C+ on those
)...If people care so much about the cooler and genuinely's can't wait for the 3rd party Navi, then spend the same or more money getting the slower 2060S over the 5700XT, assuming that Nvidia themselves has enough of the FE stock to go around, or otherwise people will be spending £400~£430 on the AIB partners' 2060S.
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The problem isn't the blower.
The problem is it's crap thermals and acoustics.
On Nvidia blowers such as the 1080 it had better acoustics than the 5700XT has etc.
The problem is it's crap thermals and acoustics.
On Nvidia blowers such as the 1080 it had better acoustics than the 5700XT has etc.
Nvidia's blower-style reference cards also throttled by default though. They were designed specifically to hit the temperature throttle point (84 degrees), then to lower clocks rather than increase fan speed further. That's also way hotter than I'd be comfortable running my card day to day, so increasing the fan speed from the stock curve is mandatory unless you want suppressed performance and temperatures in the mid-80s. Any acoustic advantage melts away at that point. Blowers are just inherently crap compared to open-style cards, bar niche use cases.
If you're comparing reference cards, I'd agree. But IMO you should wait for the partner cards from both and see.
Weeks?? Bit extreme. I think you need to hoover more often or something..
Just flicking through the reviews.
I know it is an edge case but it looks like the stock reference 5700XT just owned the 2080ti FE in Forza Horizon 4 1080p.
Somehow AMD fixed their poor 1080p performance for Navi.
@Martini1991 the 1080GTX Fe blower was quiet because it was one of the coolest running GPUs ever, if not the coolest. Great chip!
I know it is an edge case but it looks like the stock reference 5700XT just owned the 2080ti FE in Forza Horizon 4 1080p.
Somehow AMD fixed their poor 1080p performance for Navi.
@Martini1991 the 1080GTX Fe blower was quiet because it was one of the coolest running GPUs ever, if not the coolest. Great chip!
Caporegime
That's the point though isn't it.
As long as you've got the right cooler for your GPU you're okay.
On what planet did the GTX 1080 FE run cool? Because it wasn't this one. It hit its thermal throttle point like every other Nvidia blower card, then tanked its clockspeed way, way down in order to stay there. Barely over 1600MHz, which is 300MHz+ less than what you can expect from a decent AIB model at stock settings (heck, my Palit Game Rock version hit 2GHz out of the box).
Quiet my butt. Quiet if you don't mind losing a massive chunk of performance in exchange. If you want that back, up goes the fan RPM by a hefty amount. Any card and cooler can be quiet if you throttle the GPU back enough. It's not an achievement - it's a design flaw of a crappy cooler.
Soldato
navi is impressive.
Not even close.
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That's because the 1080FE's cooler had vapor chamber (same as the Titan's cooler), while the 1070 and cheaper FE cards got that gut ripped out of them.
The funny thing was at launch there were many 3rd party cards with beefier custom cooler available from £580~£620 on average (except good old Asus with tax on their cards), and the 1080FE was at a higher price at £630. Some people were willing to spend more on a blower card that was not as good on cooling because "omgz Titan cooler...so shiny", "wow a card not by some 3rd party brand but by Nvidia themselves, time to show my patriotism", "blower cooler is better for SLI (or so they keep telling others and themselves to justify paying extra for it)".
Literally no one seem to remember the other FE cards's blower cooler had very average cooling capability, but they seem to get confused because it looked the same the Titan cooler. Even the 1080FE with the Vapor Chamber was struggle to keep the clock speed above 1900~2000MHz, where most other 3rd party cards with custom coolers had not problem keep it above 2000MHz+.
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Soldato
over 2000mhz oc with 100% fan.
Another pointer was nvidia's demo of the 1080, remember they had it overclocked to 2ghz or thereabouts and they showed it being at 66c or around that. They neglected to tell people the cards fan was screaming at 100%, so people came away with the impression it was a very cool running card and that somehow stuck.