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OcUK RX5700 and RX5700XT review thread

fs123 said:

This video shows the benefits of the 4K upscaling for those who want most of the image quality of 4K but without the performance hit. This would be a great card for those who have 4K monitors but can't afford a 2080ti.
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Agreed! I am quite surprised by how good this looks. Maybe this might correct the doubters? @D.P. 1440p upscaled to 4k looking very good in this video ;)
 
shankly1985 said:
Agreed! I am quite surprised by how good this looks. Maybe this might correct the doubters? @D.P. 1440p upscaled to 4k looking very good in this video ;)
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No one's ever going to be positive about not having a GPU powerful enough to run their native resolution.

I honestly just can not get excited about it.

Running a PS4 standard on a 4k TV. It "upscales" and doesn't blur, but it's not as sharp as a native 4K image.

Of course, a lot of that depends on how close you sit to your display.
 
shankly1985 said:
That is quite impressive! In that video, it wasn't till he said side by side did I notice the line down the middle of the screen. That in itself shows just how good RIS is.
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I thought that was quite impressive. BUT when I paused video to see the different, I was horrified to see RIS image quality compared to 4K.

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I paused video every few seconds to see image quality, there are massive loss of details everywhere on RIS compared to 4K.

I realised it not THAT impressive, RIS is not that good it is horrible, much much WORSE than superior DLSS after trainings on improved image quality.

I am amazed AMD marketing managed to fooled people like you, not surprised you fell into Jebaited trap.
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
I thought that was quite impressive. BUT when I paused video to see the different, I was horrified to see RIS image quality compared to 4K.

JifeWhy.png

I paused video every few seconds to see image quality, there are massive loss of details everywhere on RIS compared to 4K.

I realised it not THAT impressive, RIS is not that good it is horrible, much much WORSE than superior DLSS after trainings on improved image quality.

I am amazed AMD marketing managed to fooled people like you, not surprised you fell into Jebaited trap.
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Lol
Nothing else to say really apart from laugh.
 
Rock_n_Roll said:
Still not worth the money. Another £80/100 should be off these cards and priced in line with the 580/90.

Man, the GPU market is so ******* boring now, i'm snoring at this point.
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Die cost is increasing (but ignoring that), why exactly should AMD reduce profits when it's competition is priced so high? The potentially reduced demand of NAVI would be made up in increased margins.

They aren't they to placate you, they're there to placate the shareholders.
 
Martini1991 said:
No one's ever going to be positive about not having a GPU powerful enough to run their native resolution.

I honestly just can not get excited about it.

Running a PS4 standard on a 4k TV. It "upscales" and doesn't blur, but it's not as sharp as a native 4K image.

Of course, a lot of that depends on how close you sit to your display.
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Playstation 4 use a technique called checker board rendering and has already been highly praised for doing a a good enough job.

Like any upscaling they will always be pro and cons.

That is also your opinion, to get 4k at ultra/high graphics with high fps requires very high end GPUs.
If navi can upscale an image from 1440p to a 4k display and do a good enough job then it's win win for mid tear graphics users.

We all need to stop focusing on the PC space as high end! It's a niche market.
 
StriderX said:
Die cost is increasing (but ignoring that), why exactly should AMD reduce profits when it's competition is priced so high? The potentially reduced demand of NAVI would be made up in increased margins.

They aren't they to placate you, they're there to placate the shareholders.
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The cards are overpriced in that AMD/Nvida are charging top dollar for mid-tier cards. The fact that these cards were supposedly named 690/680, they should be priced in line with the 590/580.

Also, i don't care what shareholders think, it's us the consumer that are buying these cards.

Anyway, AMD/Nvida have been working together for years to fix GPU prices. So i've got zero sympathy for any of them.

 
Rock_n_Roll said:
The cards are overpriced in that AMD/Nvida are charging top dollar for mid-tier cards. The fact that these cards were supposedly named 690/680, they should be priced in line with the 590/580.

Also, i don't care what shareholders think, it's us the consumer that are buying these cards.

Anyway, AMD/Nvida have been working together for years to fix GPU prices. So i've got zero sympathy for any of them.

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Price fixing requires an actual agreement, one with evidence for it, to be "fixed", if Nvidia increase the price of everything up a tier, that's not fixing if AMD do something similar, all Nvidia did was open the door to a new minimum. There's always a chance they're doing it again, like with ATI a little over a decade ago, but the reasoning for it then (by the emails between them, is irrelevant now).

The fact that even with decreased sales, Nvidia isn't dropping prices, and is therefore content with a hope that the consumer will fold instead.
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
I thought that was quite impressive. BUT when I paused video to see the different, I was horrified to see RIS image quality compared to 4K.

JifeWhy.png

I paused video every few seconds to see image quality, there are massive loss of details everywhere on RIS compared to 4K.

I realised it not THAT impressive, RIS is not that good it is horrible, much much WORSE than superior DLSS after trainings on improved image quality.

I am amazed AMD marketing managed to fooled people like you, not surprised you fell into Jebaited trap.
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As usual a load of anti-AMD drivel from you.

The image quality is nowhere as bad as you try to imply by cherrypicking a shot with some video compression issues..

Here's one I took which shows them to be almost identical with minor blurring on the 1440p cas side. Without youtube compression it would be even better.

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mnc fear said:
Ryzen 3000 is underwhelming - you are as thick as two planks

Only person I have heard saying that in the world

You should be ashamed of yourself and learn stuff before you talk utter mince - have you looked at all of the numbers?

What an embarrassing comment -you will never have any credibility saying stuff like that
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No I am not ashamed of myself.

I don't think you actually read all the reviews numbers.

Did you read comments from AMD owners in CPU section disappointed at Ryzen 3000 games performance and decided it not worth upgraded for a small performance increase?

Found a thread on AMD reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/caap32/for_everyone_disappointed_in_gaming_performance/

I am not very impressed with 12C/24T 3900X slower than my 6C/12T 8700K in games benchmarks.

Not surprised to see Ryzen 5 3600 CPUs had still not been sold out when it in very tight supply, it been expected to sold out in an hour after sales went live.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-3b9-am.html

Now you finally know why Ryzen 3000 is underwhelming.

You now realised I am not the only person you have heard said that in the world. You just made yourself looked thick as four planks wished you never posted embarrassed response to my post.
 
AMD's blower coolers have never been very good and unlike Nvidia they seem unable or unwilling to do anything about it.
At least Nvidia switched to a two fan setup similar to some AIB cards which seem to have tamed the thermals. It seems actually thinking
about these things is beyond anybody at AMD. I guess if AMD keep launching incrementally faster cards it will make Nvidia try a bit harder or drop prices but sticking with turgid blower coolers is a great way to cheap out the product and handicap its performance. AMD seem to be like a collective of individuals milling about but unable to all sing from the same hymn sheet. AIB versions will probably be fine but they cost significantly more thus ruining the value proposition.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Undervolting increases performance significantly:
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.p...0-und-radeon-rx-5700-xt-im-test.html?start=25

So not only has AMD overvolted the graphics card,but the cooler also is not helping one bit.

Interesting article on the antilag function:
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Rade...3/Specials/Radeon-Anti-Lag-Test-Navi-1293817/
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Didn't Nvidia say they have had this for years? LOL Good try Nvidia! Shock horror Pre-Rendered frames do nothing to latency.
 
At least undervolting is possible, hopefully will help to keep the noise down and a max of 80c with a custom curve.

Hopefully they'll undo the clock-lock of the 5700 too, which is a bit nuts.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Undervolting increases performance significantly:
https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.p...0-und-radeon-rx-5700-xt-im-test.html?start=25

So not only has AMD overvolted the graphics card,but the cooler also is not helping one bit.

Interesting article on the antilag function:
https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Rade...3/Specials/Radeon-Anti-Lag-Test-Navi-1293817/
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That's somewhat promising.
Why they had to release it with a crap cooler and high voltage is beyond me though.

Need to see a tweak 5700XT versus a 2070 Super really
 
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