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OcUK RX5800X3D review thread

Journey said:
They are dropping pretty fast already, but the highly binned stuff e.g 6000+ is held high in price as they know people will pay it and obviously there is less of it. What will be most interesting to see is how effective DDR5 4800/5200 is on AM5 especially if you can sacrifice outright bandwidth for latency, or if you still need both for it to be worthwhile. If the lower end parts are working better on one platform vs another they you automatically have an advantage, but right now the advantage is clearly to the much older technology from a cost perspective.
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Yeah it will be interesting to see how slower speed RAM is working on AM5.

Right now it's actually cheaper to import the best DDR5 6400 speed kit with fees, than to buy in the UK.
 
I wonder with the price reduction of the 5900x/5950x, how it will compete in the long-term for gaming. 12-16 cores vs 8 with 3D-cache. Im guessing price wont be too much different between them?

In the case of 5950x - double the core count (thats something hard to ignore). If games do use more threads (like the Unreal 5 engine) could that mean the 5950x would be better in the long term future? In the past we said 2 cores would be enough, later on 4 cores. Nowadays 8. Games are using more cores slowly.

Or are those extra cores just a waste, and better to improve those with caching etc., so the 5800x3D is a better deal?

Im guessing we wont see any 5900x3D or 5950x3D?
 
Roguey000 said:
I wonder with the price reduction of the 5900x/5950x, how it will compete in the long-term for gaming. 12-16 cores vs 8 with 3D-cache. Im guessing price wont be too much different between them?

In the case of 5950x - double the core count (thats something hard to ignore). If games do use more threads (like the Unreal 5 engine) could that mean the 5950x would be better in the long term future? In the past we said 2 cores would be enough, later on 4 cores. Nowadays 8. Games are using more cores slowly.

Or are those extra cores just a waste, and better to improve those with caching etc., so the 5800x3D is a better deal?

Im guessing we wont see any 5900x3D or 5950x3D?
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Does the 5800X3D's cache mainly help in games that rely on per core performance, or where they're heavily multi-threaded? I'd imagine if it's the former then it won't age much better than the 5800X.
 
Tetras said:
Does the 5800X3D's cache mainly help in games that rely on per core performance, or where they're heavily multi-threaded? I'd imagine if it's the former then it won't age much better than the 5800X.
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The benefits will shine in titles that have good cache optimisation. MSFS is one of those titles that does loads of predetermined repetitive calculations every frame and so sees a big benefit...this is as opposed to more complex games with lots of branching logic that can be more difficult to optimise for cache.
 
Roguey000 said:
I wonder with the price reduction of the 5900x/5950x, how it will compete in the long-term for gaming. 12-16 cores vs 8 with 3D-cache. Im guessing price wont be too much different between them?

In the case of 5950x - double the core count (thats something hard to ignore). If games do use more threads (like the Unreal 5 engine) could that mean the 5950x would be better in the long term future? In the past we said 2 cores would be enough, later on 4 cores. Nowadays 8. Games are using more cores slowly.
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If that were to happen, I think by the time very high multi-core use in gaming brings big gains for the 5900X and 5950X over that of the high cache for the 8-core 5800X3d, Zen 3 will be at least a couple of generations old and it'd be moot.
 
uscool said:
Gibbo mentioned they have plenty of stock and going up at 2pm didn't mention price
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I wouldn't take anything for granted and if you want one then it's best to get in early as once the initial stock dries up its likely to be drip feeding after that.

Remember how this one turned out.

Gibbo said:
Hi there

The NVIDIA 3000 series including RTX 3090, 3080 and 3070 are now ONLINE at Overclockers UK for your viewing pleasure.
You cannot place pre-orders yet but you can on the following dates:
- 3090 September 24th 2pm
- 3080 September 17th 2pm
- 3070 October

We expect good volume on these cards and the performance on offer is absolutely incredible and the pricing is even more impressive, NVIDIA have an absolute HIT on their hands here, these cards are going to sell in their thousands especially as they are launching in peak season and offer performance vastly beyond anything else with some incredible feature set and many USP's.

Here are the cards we have online so far but we are adding more cards every day so do be sure to keep checking back at the website on a daily basis to check for new additions as were expecting more models from all manufacturers and we have more manufacturers to still add including likes of EVGA, Gainward etc.
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If you dont get one today I can be almost certain the price will go up. Unless anything changes it going to be the usual allocation of lowish stock for sale to get favour with reviews etc. When that goes the real price rears its head which is proberly the real price they really wanted to sell item for all along with a slew of reasons why like demand/shortages... etc
 
Roguey000 said:
I wonder with the price reduction of the 5900x/5950x, how it will compete in the long-term for gaming. 12-16 cores vs 8 with 3D-cache. Im guessing price wont be too much different between them?

In the case of 5950x - double the core count (thats something hard to ignore). If games do use more threads (like the Unreal 5 engine) could that mean the 5950x would be better in the long term future? In the past we said 2 cores would be enough, later on 4 cores. Nowadays 8. Games are using more cores slowly.

Or are those extra cores just a waste, and better to improve those with caching etc., so the 5800x3D is a better deal?

Im guessing we wont see any 5900x3D or 5950x3D?
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There is no way in hell the 5950x will ever catch up to the 3d. By the time 8 cores are a limiting factor, the single thread performance of both cpus will also be a major issue
 
Keen to see how the 5800XD compares with my 3700X, especially at 1440p - that video above suggests there's more of a difference than I was expecting.
 
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