That's the only good case for this, although debatable whether a 5900X would be better idea or not. Slightly worse for gaming, although negligible at higher resolutions, but better for longevity and productivity.
-
Competitor rules
Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.
OcUK RX5800X3D review thread
- Thread starter CAT-THE-FIFTH
- Start date
That's the only good case for this, although debatable whether a 5900X would be better idea or not. Slightly worse for gaming, although negligible at higher resolutions, but better for longevity and productivity.
GPU to a point but there is no point putting a 3080/6800xt on a zen 1 1600 as it would more than likely bottleneck in a good few games. Chair, keyboard and mouse won't help with bad perf in the games you play.
Have to admit I feel the 5900x would pay in the long run but all down to use case I guess.
Soldato
£400 of DDR5 - overtaken is subjective in regards to cost.
Just FYI, its not a paper launch, launch date is April 20th, AMD just let reviewers release reviews a week early to give people all the unformation prior to launch
Reviews before release? They know that they'll be generally positive.
Releases on release? Avoid.
Soldato
- Joined
- 9 Jun 2011
- Posts
- 3,610
AMD has done everyone a solid, AM4 Will go down as legendary. Hopefully AM5 Follows suit
Soldato
- Joined
- 14 Aug 2009
- Posts
- 3,096
5800X3D will probably give you a nice boost in minimum FPS which is far more important than the average.
However, following your thought, you can always chose a 5600x, saving even more.
I own a 3080/3700x gaming on a 1440p/165hz monitor and I am 100% going to upgrade to a 5800x3d.
I'd rather buy the best for the platform and save on upgrading my MOBO/PSU/DDR5 for 2-3 years until these newer platforms mature and we see prices come down for RAM especially. The minimum framerates are what interest me most; the 3700x is great but if I play Battlefield 1/V on conquest it can stay around 80-90fps leaving my GPU barely utilised
I'd rather buy the best for the platform and save on upgrading my MOBO/PSU/DDR5 for 2-3 years until these newer platforms mature and we see prices come down for RAM especially. The minimum framerates are what interest me most; the 3700x is great but if I play Battlefield 1/V on conquest it can stay around 80-90fps leaving my GPU barely utilised
Caporegime
Smart move, should be a big upgrade.
Soldato
5600X > 5800X3D?
I guess you won't be recommending Zen 4 then with the expensive DDR5 and pricey newly released X670 over what will be a cheaper RPL with B660/Z690 that will no doubt see some price cuts once 700 series boards are out and also that cheap DDR4.
Come the end of teh year DDR 5 prices should drop. Also what makes you think X670 will be pricey? Have you seen the prices somewhere> There were plenty of reasonably priced X670 boards around at launch. There will also be B series boards by AMD. Z690 boards where certainly not cheap at launch mind. Also 700 series boards wont support DDR4 so i guess you will be encouraging people to buy older boards so they can use older tech? Have you ever writen a pro AMD post or even an impartial post?
Associate
- Joined
- 4 Oct 2017
- Posts
- 1,320
I vote yes especially if you game at lower resolutions.
I'm buying one as the 1% lows are incredible which will really help with smoothness.
While at higher resolutions the average frame rates aren't much different the lows are, which is enough reason to change.
What I'd do if I was you though is look at benchmarks for games you play and see if you feel the improvements are worth it for you.
With pcie gen 5.0, DDR5, pins on the board and more conectivity like the extra M.2 slots then I can't see X670 being cheap especially at release and if I remember X570 was also quite expensive at launch with the cheapest boards costing around £160 and no B550s anywhere to be seen for another year which is why I went for a B450 and it's done the job fine so yeah I would recommend people buy older boards and cheaper DDR4 if they can save a chunk of change which can go on a better GPU or CPU with more cores etc depending on their usage.
I do not class £160 as a expensive board especially for a top end chipset. Times where different when we had to wait for B550, it was not that way pre COVID and i do not expect that again at least not to that extent. I would pick a newer setup that is likely to give some longevity with upgrades, that is why i went AMD this time as i am frankly fed up with Intels 1 or 2 releases per chipset cash cow. Intels lack of quality offering at the time of Zen 3 release meant AMD really did not need to worry about low end plus they kept Zen 2 and B450 / X470 on the market for anyone wanting cheaper options
The £160 options were boards like the x570 A-pro which had worse VRMs and feature sets than some B450 boards, infact the only decent X570 at launch in the lower end was the Aorus elite at around £200 which is over twice what I ended up paying so I do not regret going for a B450 but would have likely got a B550 had those been released sooner.
Covid arrived in early 2020 while X570 and zen 2 came in mid 2019 so covid wasn't really to blame for the non showing B550s.
Zen 2 stayed on the market but wasn't really a good budget option as the prices went up above the original msrp despite being 18 month old parts, I actually sold my ryzen 5 3600 in December 2020 for £220 which was £30 more than when I bought it in August 2019.
Soldato
They are dropping pretty fast already, but the highly binned stuff e.g 6000+ is held high in price as they know people will pay it and obviously there is less of it. What will be most interesting to see is how effective DDR5 4800/5200 is on AM5 especially if you can sacrifice outright bandwidth for latency, or if you still need both for it to be worthwhile. If the lower end parts are working better on one platform vs another they you automatically have an advantage, but right now the advantage is clearly to the much older technology from a cost perspective.
Tomorrow
Have ocuk given any indications of stock levels or prices? Thinking to pick one up but wondering if I'll need to be glued to a webpage hitting refresh over and over.