OCUK Safe Space

Bouton Aide said:
what is this thread even about? Does anyone know?
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Well, seeing as I am the OP, I can tell you.

It started off as an ironic take on the concept of Safe Spaces just for 'lolz' [with obviously debatable success]. Then it turned into a more serious discussion about safe spaces in general and the validity of creating one on OCUK.
 
Some frustrations can't quite be stated - like observing others trying to turn around the eco-Titannic in a financially-lossy fashion. A boutique concern, yes, but real enough.
 
Obviously I refer ^^ to the price of black flowerpots in the mediaeval global village we inhabit.
 
Lysander said:
No, it's not at all. The main complaint about Safe Spaces is that they are irreflective of the Real World®, and in the Real World® people will challenge you and this challenge is useful to help you grow and develop as a person.

However, a Safe Space is useful if is it not defined as somewhere which represents the challenges of the Real World® but which is just separate from them. A place where one can guarantee one won't be judged or criticised. It's a place to be able to speak up and speak freely without negativity or recrimination.

Even at work we have a Wellbeing Room - does this mean that the Real World® has comfy chairs everywhere, bouncy squishy stress-balls and colouring books around every corner? No, but we can create places which make us feel good so we can avoid, and recover from, a lot of the horrors out there.

As you've pointed out, this can be therapeutic and the main reason why a lot of people won't tell others what they're feeling, as in 90% of the time, is because they're scared of the reactions they'll get. If one can guarantee there will no negative reactions, such places can go towards improving the mental health of people.

Another reason why there is such wild dissent to such things is because it challenges the status quo. If things have been like X for a long time, Y is inherently thrown out, but most of the time it's just the change itself that people reject, rather than what is changing. The irony is that things have to change in order to develop: if they don't develop, they risk irrelevance.

Yes, I started this thread ironically but, given some of the responses here, I would support one on OCUK because this place can be toxic at times. This thread could even be a place to thrash out the concept before one is created at a later date.
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Not much to add but cheers for the response and for getting where I was coming from :)
 
Nitefly said:
There is something that makes me feel uneasy about this thread. It’s hard for me to put my finger on it. But I’ll try.

The thread is mostly likely created ironically, but nevertheless the immediate and seemingly only reaction is a wave of fairy aggressive dissent to the notice of a safe space.

Let’s look at the rules for the safe space again:



Is it really so inherently awful?

I’m particularly conscious that in a book that I read, which is an extremely emotionally heavy book dealing with psychology and healing, it eventually goes onto suggest that one of the principal ways of healing and becoming rounded is to express all of your views and emotions and have them acknowledged by someone without being challenged in any way. As in, it is actually a good thing to happen, as it unlocks turbulent parts of yourself and promotes inner healing. This is a book that principally deals with intense ‘no laughing matter’ trauma (which as far a I can recall I am lucky enough to not have experienced) and even comes with a warning not to read it unless you are a professional or unless you have been directed to be a professional or have support available.... so some really deeply provoking and challenging stuff in there for sure. So powerful that I’m actually not going to mention it’s name because is it potentially dangerous to those that are vulnerable (as the book itself infers). And it did, I guess, suggest the merits of a safe space, in a sense.

I suppose there is a time for robustness and also a time for healing. I would agree that one should not shelter themselves from the realities in the world, but there is a known benefit from being able to be heard without being challenged.
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GD in particular is full of ignorant man-babies, could one really expect them to have a shred of empathy or self-awareness? Then again, I’m sure some people act out their stupid with pride.
 
I have to agree with the premise.

This forum is very toxic, if you dont agree with the general narrative your the outcast.

Am no sheep and i dont care anymore, but people need a voice if you want to be a arse then *****you.

I know OCUK at heart dont want to be seen as that, but i understand to a certain point.

We all about Tech and progression not the bull hit of what's going on in the world. We all friends in a tech world fighting a mad world. :p

Chill everyone life's a game and we all playing the same script. ;)
 
LuckyBenski said:
I'm amazed, I specifically avoid SC because of the level of argumentation! Has it changed recently?
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I think SC is well intentioned but when I used to frequent it years ago I found it to be particularly argumentative. You have to have your wits about you posting in there, fully checking everything you write because someone will call you out on any minor inaccuracies or uncited references. I think surviving in that jungle would feel like a full-time job.

Kind of the opposite of GD where there are numerous posts of under 100 characters. A long time ago, there used to be some 'middle ground' subforum, I can't remember what it was called (General Discussion "Zone" or something like that?), but it's something that's a bit lacking now, a place for reasoned debate with people prepared to write lengthy responses but without all the point-scoring that goes on on SC, or throwaway one-liners from GD. It's one reason why I tend to frequent some of the subforums more like Careers/Home because you get a good quality of posts, a bit of back-and-forth but without constantly being on your toes about everything or having to sift through terrible attempts at humour.
 
HangTime said:
I think SC is well intentioned but when I used to frequent it years ago I found it to be particularly argumentative. You have to have your wits about you posting in there, fully checking everything you write because someone will call you out on any minor inaccuracies or uncited references. I think surviving in that jungle would feel like a full-time job.

Kind of the opposite of GD where there are numerous posts of under 100 characters. A long time ago, there used to be some 'middle ground' subforum, I can't remember what it was called (General Discussion "Zone" or something like that?), but it's something that's a bit lacking now, a place for reasoned debate with people prepared to write lengthy responses but without all the point-scoring that goes on on SC, or throwaway one-liners from GD. It's one reason why I tend to frequent some of the subforums more like Careers/Home because you get a good quality of posts, a bit of back-and-forth but without constantly being on your toes about everything or having to sift through terrible attempts at humour.
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Two or three posters have pretty much taken over SC and try to ruin every thread, usually by whining about br*xit. SC basically is the OCUK 'safe space' for them. I too much prefer other sub forums these days.
 
Op you need to listen to more Guns n Roses, drink hard liquor, and buy a motorcycle.

Then, only then, your vagina might change back.
 
Uther said:
Two or three posters have pretty much taken over SC and try to ruin every thread, usually by whining about br*xit. SC basically is the OCUK 'safe space' for them. I too much prefer other sub forums these days.
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Though it is quite funny throwing them a bone every so often and watch them froth over it for like 20 more pages :D
 
Nasher said:
Though it is quite funny throwing them a bone every so often and watch them froth over it for like 20 more pages :D
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No it's a bit embarrasing that supposedly grown men/women/trans/whatever act like that, and it ruins the place for the other 150,000 members that might want to get involved but give the place a very wide berth.
 
Uther said:
No it's a bit embarrasing that supposedly grown men/women/trans/whatever act like that, and it ruins the place for the other 150,000 members that might want to get involved but give the place a very wide berth.
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To be fair I give SC a wide birth also it's full of pretentious kids pretending they know what they are talking about.
 
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