Oculus Rift

Zeeflyboy · 2 May 2019 at 10:06

pcfarrar said:
The resolution is bad on the CV1 if you use the Oculus Go you immediately notice how much better it is.

Probably depends what you are playing/using it for... I'm always surprised by how good games like Robo Recall look when I try them again, the art style seems to really hide the lack resolution and they look fantastic.

Equally playing flight sims or racing sims, or just games with a lot of fine detail in general, the lack of resolution is glaringly obvious and I personally find it very immersion killing.

pcfarrar · 2 May 2019 at 10:34

Zeeflyboy said:
Equally playing flight sims or racing sims, or just games with a lot of fine detail in general, the lack of resolution is glaringly obvious and I personally find it very immersion killing.

I play mostly flight sims and I'm hoping the increased resolution of the S helps.

Ravenger · 2 May 2019 at 10:48

The Oculus Go is much, much sharper than the Rift, so the Rift S should be similar. It's not just due to the higher resolution, it's because of the RGB stripe subpixel arrangement. SDE is greatly reduced and text is far clearer. For flight sims and racing sims the Rift S should be a significant improvement. For space sims like Elite it remains to be seen, as the black levels will be worse.

Cavallino · 2 May 2019 at 11:14

Hmm i preordered the Rift S with Amazon incase I want to return it if Im not happy with it over the Rift.

I do not wish to start a Index Vs Rift S battle, but is there any comparison data or spec comparison which someone could point me to? Surprisingly googling "Rift S Vs Valve Index" doesnt seem to yield a lot of "official/ indicative comparisons"

Ravenger · 2 May 2019 at 11:20

I'm sure the Index will be better than the Rift S in terms of visual fidelity and audio, but then it is (if you have to start from scratch) over twice the price.

Cavallino · 2 May 2019 at 11:21

Whatabout technical comparison? As I understand it, the Rift S uses one display as opposed to two separate OLED displays?
And what are the resolutions of each?

Zeeflyboy · 2 May 2019 at 11:32

Ravenger said:
For space sims like Elite it remains to be seen, as the black levels will be worse.

Not just space sims of course, any game that has a lot of dark places.

That said it will be intriguing because while OLED as a technology is capable of much better blacks than lcd, in the rift it doesn’t actually switch off to reduce black smear. Basically if you totally switch an oled pixel off there is a time delay associated with switching it back on which can lead to smearing... so the rift has never actually had “true” oled blacks.

Ravenger · 2 May 2019 at 12:16

Zeeflyboy said:
... so the rift has never actually had “true” oled blacks.

It can have much better blacks if you turn off SPUD/Mura, which I've done with my Rift.

Cavallino · 2 May 2019 at 12:20

So from what I understood. The index is going to have pretty good resolution compared to the rift s.

I supposed that's going to be important for racing games and games with text details like flight Sims?

kevman · 2 May 2019 at 13:01

Cavallino said:
So from what I understood. The index is going to have pretty good resolution compared to the rift s.

I supposed that's going to be important for racing games and games with text details like flight Sims?

I don't think there is much difference between the two actually in terms of res but overall with the lens tech yes, index will be better- I would pick up an index over a rift s if the cost difference was not so high. Might not be so bad if you have vibe already

Cavallino · 2 May 2019 at 13:20

I have a Rift at the moment. Ive preordered the Rift S to see if its worth it.

Question is, is the higher refresh and better resolution sufficient reason to pay more than 2X the price?

(presumably there is nothing can be used from the Rift when going to the Rift S right?)

pcfarrar · 2 May 2019 at 13:28

Ravenger said:
The Oculus Go is much, much sharper than the Rift, so the Rift S should be similar. It's not just due to the higher resolution, it's because of the RGB stripe subpixel arrangement. SDE is greatly reduced and text is far clearer. For flight sims and racing sims the Rift S should be a significant improvement. For space sims like Elite it remains to be seen, as the black levels will be worse.

It's definitely better for flight sims than the original Rift:

https://uploadvr.com/dcs-developer-on-oculus-rift-s-cockpit-resolution-i-can-read-everything/

kevman · 2 May 2019 at 21:36

pcfarrar said:
It's definitely better for flight sims than the original Rift:

https://uploadvr.com/dcs-developer-on-oculus-rift-s-cockpit-resolution-i-can-read-everything/

Thats good to hear - still gonna wait for some independent reviews. Although wags is a nice guy

aoaaron · 3 May 2019 at 19:24

Zeeflyboy said:
Probably depends what you are playing/using it for... I'm always surprised by how good games like Robo Recall look when I try them again, the art style seems to really hide the lack resolution and they look fantastic.

Equally playing flight sims or racing sims, or just games with a lot of fine detail in general, the lack of resolution is glaringly obvious and I personally find it very immersion killing.

Once we see some Rift Vs Rift S vs Index screenshots, I'm sure I'll eventually sell my Rift 3-sensor setup. I don't mind the resolution for the more simple games, its not noticeable but for something like Skyrim, I'd much rather be putting into use that 1.5x super samplng.

The lack of OLED on the other two just makes me feel like horror games will just not be as immersive though. But then again, Rift blacks aren't as good as my PSVR blacks.

drakulton · 18 Mar 2023 at 23:54

Bugger! It looks like my next job is this. Should be a fun fix.

drakulton · 25 Jul 2023 at 17:29

drakulton said:
Bugger! It looks like my next job is this. Should be a fun fix.

Unfortunately, this wasn't the issue with my headset. There's a ribbon cable from the back of the strap to power the rear LEDs and the left/right audio, which goes through the right side armature into the headset. There's a loop of the ribbon cable to take up the slack for the headstrap tension adjustment. Over time, the flexing of the cable caused it to crack. This is fixable by soldering tiny wires to bridge the crack in the trace on the cable. Rifts are a pain to completely dismantle.
In the meantime, I did manage to pick up a replacement headset from the bay with a faulty cable and a damaged headphone for £2.20 + postage. The headset works flawlessly with my cable and earphone from my under repair HMD.

drakulton · 1 Aug 2023 at 22:00

Can't fault Meta customer support. They're sending me a replacement CV1 main headset cable.

melmac · 2 Aug 2023 at 12:16

drakulton said:
Can't fault Meta customer support. They're sending me a replacement CV1 main headset cable.

Nice one!!

Meta's customer support is usually very good. Haven't had any problems any time that I have had to deal with them.

I know people complain about them all the time and about how they ended support for the Rift S after two years. etc. etc. But they are still sending out replacement cables for the Rift S and the Civ 1. Which is pretty good, considering the price of those cables!!

drakulton · 3 Aug 2023 at 12:09

Happy days

drakulton · 20 Aug 2023 at 13:46

I just bought another CV1 fixer-upper for £2.42 plus postage off the bay 'does not display images' Looks like it may be another dodgy cable.