OCZ Vertex SSD

I can't see big storage drives being replaced by SSD.

While SSD will indeed increase in capacity and decrease in price, so will mechanical hard drives.

I'm about to buy some SSDs to RAID up as an OS drive, but for main storage mechanical drives are 1/10th of the price of SSDs.

I'd like to see mechanical drives focus on capacity and cost, Western Digital seems a step ahead with their Greenpower drives. They're cheap, high capacity, low power drives. Perhaps in 5 years time we'll start to see mechanical drives go the way of CRTs, but even then I think there may still be a niche for mechanicals.
And there will, for a long long time, but i believe that as soon as these hit 500GB, the companies making the mainstream laptops/desktops will put these in instead, 500GB sounds like a great bit and it's a sacrifice that's more than worth it.
 
And there will, for a long long time, but i believe that as soon as these hit 500GB, the companies making the mainstream laptops/desktops will put these in instead, 500GB sounds like a great bit and it's a sacrifice that's more than worth it.

500GB SSD might be a bit out the reach of the average laptop buyer for a while yet :p
But yes, SSDs have already pretty much replaced 1.8" HDDs, and 2.5" laptop HDDs are next on their list.
 
I can't see big storage drives being replaced by SSD.

While SSD will indeed increase in capacity and decrease in price, so will mechanical hard drives.

I'm about to buy some SSDs to RAID up as an OS drive, but for main storage mechanical drives are 1/10th of the price of SSDs.

I'd like to see mechanical drives focus on capacity and cost, Western Digital seems a step ahead with their Greenpower drives. They're cheap, high capacity, low power drives. Perhaps in 5 years time we'll start to see mechanical drives go the way of CRTs, but even then I think there may still be a niche for mechanicals.

But think of laptops - The maximum capacity for a laptop is 320gb I believe, Solid State will be able to go higher. Laptop mechanical drives will always be limited by their size.
 
I'd like to see mechanical drives focus on capacity and cost, Western Digital seems a step ahead with their Greenpower drives. They're cheap, high capacity, low power drives. Perhaps in 5 years time we'll start to see mechanical drives go the way of CRTs, but even then I think there may still be a niche for mechanicals.

Wouldn't we all :p
Thing is, mechanicals have been increasing in size at a far slower rate than SSDs for the very reason that they are mechanical. Think about it. In 2006, the biggest HDD available was either 750GB or 1000GB, my memory betrays me. In 2008, the biggest HDD available was 1500GB - 2 times as big, best case scenario. In 2006, the biggest SSD available to consumers was, what, 32GB? Assuming 64Gb, in case my memory has failed me again, in the past two years, that has increased in size by a factor of 4, worst case scenario. SSDs can follow Moore's law and increase in size exponentially, but no such luck for mechanical HDDs - for years they've been trying to increase platter density, and they've done a damn good job, but they cannot maintain a rate of expansion near that of SSDs.
The mechanical hard drive will live for a few years yet, mostly because they will be priced lower than SSDs for a good while yet, but I expect the first consumer 3TB drive to be an SSD. And, judging by the rate of expansion, for that to happen by the end of 2010.
(Now all you guys have to do is wait a couple of years to prove me wrong :p)
 
Do you really need ssd's that big...

You dont really need one to act as a simple storage device.. The main benefit is for the os and applicaitons.. unless you have a multOS system, I really wouldnt see the need for anything greather than 64gb ish...

Non of my windows partiotns are greater than 25gb... some as small as 10gb...

Id much prefer performance, reliability and longevity over size....

My gaming comp is sitting at around 200GB used out of 300, that's just Vista and App installs, no media or cd images.

Once i can get a couple of affordable decent 120GB SSD's to raid together i'll be migrating. Once decent SSD's like the Vertex reach 1 pound/GB pretty much every Enthusiast will be on them, even if it means putting off upgrading the CPU or GPU another few months.

From what i've read the Intel drives have the reliability issues well under control, with better lifespans than mechanical drives. Even once the write limit of the MLC based drives is reached you don't lose any data, the drive just becomes read only. You can even view the state of the drive at any time and see how many writes are left in it.
Hopefully these new OCZ drives use something similar.
 
I've got a HD Tach benchmark I could stick up but they won't give me the details of the controller used etc.

I've been told it was on an ICH10R based motherboard but they would not confirm if they were/were not using an additional controller. If they're on something like a £400 Adaptec SAS controller then they're not really anything special but if it's directly on the board then these are going to be awesome. The Core V2s were good when attached to a decent controller in RAID but on the motherboard they were nowhere near.
 
Any update on this?

The Vertex series with onboard DRAM cache look like they might be Intel SSD killers certainly in terms of price/performance.
 
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Yeah Tony from Ocz ssaid they should be available as from next monday. I'm unsure what to get at the moment these or the new super talent ultradrive LE ones. Reviews would be very helpful.
 
I also got a chance to talk with OCZ's Alex Mei a little about the infamous JMicron memory controller in relation to OCZ's SSDs. OCZ Core Series SSDs and every other manufacturer’s SSDs that use a JMicron controller have had some issues with stuttering during write operations. Mei assured me that while the new Solid and Apex Series SSDs continue to use JMicron memory controllers, they have been heavily optimized to minimize any write performance issues that may crop up during normal use.

Ok, so these use JMicron controllers too.. hmmm.

They say Core/Solid/Apex series.. jmicron for me (and the fact that this isn't a new part) is basically a dirty word in my view and it seems quite a few other people's mind too.
 
Ok, so these use JMicron controllers too.. hmmm.

They say Core/Solid/Apex series.. jmicron for me (and the fact that this isn't a new part) is basically a dirty word in my view and it seems quite a few other people's mind too.

Agreed.

We need to wait for an independent review before considering opeing the wallet. We need to know whether or not the jmicron controller issues still exist.
 
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