Off work ill

Dimple said:
Scenario One

Hi John, I hear you had a cold yesterday, you Ok now?
Yes
2 months later
Hi John, you had yesterday off with a tummy bug and you took a day off 2 months ago so this is your first verbal warning
OK
2 months later
Hi John, I can see your eyes are still flared up from hay fever but having yesterday off means I have to give you your second verbal warning
Fair enough
3 months later
I hear you had another day off with the squits from both ends but I'm sorry to say I have to give you your first written warning.
Bugger
3 months later
You know why you're here, I know you were in A&E all day with broken fingers but here's your second written warning.
1 month later
Here's your P45
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To be honest having a day off with hay fever is laughable.
My hay fever is awful, but I just get on with it.

Also those having a day off with a cold are pathetic. Cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze and keep it to yourself, but get your backside into work you lazy ****.
People need to realise that the British having loads of random sick days is why employers choose Eastern Europeans over them. Quite simply they work harder, don't pull pathetic sickies and don't run crying to the union when challenged over the pathetic sickies.

Where I work the company has very low staff sickness but very high works (hourly) sickness. Why? They get away with it.
Also we have lots of engineering contractors - They do not get paid if they are off ill, so guess what....they are not ill. If they were off sick like some of the workforce then they would be bankrupt!
 
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Guest2 said:
There are a number of people where I currently work and previous work places that seem to be constantly off work sick.

In the past 6 of years I think I have had 1 day off and this was a 'sickie' for Summer olympics when I went to London.

Do you think this is down to poor immune systems, because people are more prone to illness or just pulling sickies?

There's a guy off at the moment due a serious problem (understandable he's off) but some just have the odd day every couple of weeks and are then usually in and fine the rest of the week.

It really grinds my gears, especially when other people have to take on their workload
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Could be many reasons.

I've pulled a few sickies when my lad has been ill and stayed at home with him. The nursery won't take him in, so what am I supposed to do? I never told them that, because it's always "can't your Mrs stay at home with him"..... considering she earns more in a volatile industry, sorry no. Take it in turns when possible, but can't always count on it.

Use to think honesty was always the best policy, but not so sure any more with the workplace. They'll use any stick to beat you with.

I'm just bitter I loste 9 grand a year to childcare, I practically work for nothing so i'm way past caring. lol
 
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Arthur Hucksake said:
I've pulled a few sickies when my lad has been ill and stayed at home with him. The nursery won't take him in, so what am I supposed to do? I never told them that, because it's always "can't your Mrs stay at home with him"..... considering she earns more in a volatile industry, sorry no. Take it in turns when possible, but can't always count on it.
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No need to throw a sickie to look after an ill dependent:-

https://www.gov.uk/time-off-for-dependants/your-rights

Know your rights and empower yourself.
 
OpenToSuggestions said:
To be honest having a day off with hay fever is laughable.
My hay fever is awful, but I just get on with it.

Also those having a day off with a cold are pathetic. Cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze and keep it to yourself, but get your backside into work you lazy ****.
People need to realise that the British having loads of random sick days is why employers choose Eastern Europeans over them. Quite simply they work harder, don't pull pathetic sickies and don't run crying to the union when challenged over the pathetic sickies.

Where I work the company has very low staff sickness but very high works (hourly) sickness. Why? They get away with it.
Also we have lots of engineering contractors - They do not get paid if they are off ill, so guess what....they are not ill. If they were off sick like some of the workforce then they would be bankrupt!
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My dad can barely see when he gets it bad so not sure its entirely laughable depends how bad you get it. These days he can mostly control it with meds though so that its no worse than a mild cold at worst except maybe the odd 1 day. (EDIT: Infact I remember once when I was 7-8 when he was crawling along the landing almost at the point of passing out due to how bad it was - even with ionisers, etc. in the rooms - granted don't know any else who gets it that bad).

Covering mouth, etc. will do absolutely nothing to stop a cold spreading and as probably mentioned before in the thread its often spread long before anyones really showing symptoms.
 
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pitchfork said:
Working isn't life, working is just time wasted to fund life. You should always spend as little time working as is humanly possible so you can spend as much time enjoying this existence.
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working is life really, it pays for your lifestyle outside of work...

Funny reading through this thread...all those who run off with the sniffles, I wonder if they took as many days sick if it were their own business? I think not.
 
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bruce said:
Funny reading through this thread...all those who run off with the sniffles, I wonder if they took as many days sick if it were their own business? I think not.
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well duh....

If you are 'employed' in a job you like that rewards you one way or another you will go in no matter what.

If you are sick of it, bored or don't feel valued then sod it, who cares? Sick day at any given opportunity. :p
 
Does the heath and safety laws no state you should not be at work and if are sent home with say the Flu or the poos?

I worked with some right greedy basts that would not take 1 day off and worked all the overtime 7 days per week, they came in ill and gave those illnesses to others and then more were of work than just the 1 source.
 
we used to have a crap sick policy. it meant people would all come in ill , make each other ill , get more ill. do naff all work

now we have a great sick policy. everyone abuses it. sometimes to hilarious extents. you can now expect courtesy call after courtesy call when your off. which i imagine is bloody horrible when your really ill (a guy was getting calls asking when he could come back while he was in intensive care !)

not sure whats worse.
 
Flukester said:
I know of one guy who always takes at least 30 days sick a year without fail, effectively doubling his holiday.
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Being off ill is not equivalent to having holiday.

The amount of sick you take will vary during your life. Back injuries, depression, various long-term infections and so forth. It's a bit silly to imagine that just because you've not taken many days off while you're young and healthy you never will. Have a little sympathy for others who less fortunate.

Also, people who come into work when they're ill shouldn't be praised they should be disciplined. Keep your ruddy germs to yourselves!
 
I wonder how the sick days taken by the average "Self employed" person compare with the sick days taken by the average "employee" :/

(Or even holidays for that matter!)

Now, I accept that the nature of self employment means that a "Direct" comparison is not really possible, but I imagine that the figures could give an idea as to just how much employee malingering is actually going on!
 
jh30uk said:
Does the heath and safety laws no state you should not be at work and if are sent home with say the Flu or the poos?
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Depends on the work environment - any kind of food handling work and your employer will get in big doo doos )excuse the pun) if they let you work whilst you had a stomach bug.
 
"andy" said:
(a guy was getting calls asking when he could come back while he was in intensive care !)
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One of our lurking members has a brother who used to work at JCB and he got a call from their HR department asking why he hadn't been in.
He then listed all his injuries from being hit by a lorry on his cycle on the way home from work which included 2 broken hips, punctured lungs and 5 cracked vertebrae which now means he's 2" shorter.
 
I've never taken many days off sick, although when I was working in fast food, I would have course take time off if necessary (stomach bugs etc).

recently I've been feeling dire, but fairly certain this is stress induced.
I'm being stubborn about taking time off, because if I do that, I'll have an even heavier workload when I get back = more stress = feel worse!
 
I left my last job due to them reducing our sick pay, leave allowance etc.

I was working in an enclosed enviroment which was badly ventilated (AC didnt work half the time) It was stuffy and 100% of my clients had bad hygiene which meant we would often get ill.

I use to get so ill working in that place as I would catch things from the clients colds/flu's other things you name it.

We were being paid the lowest in the industry that I worked in and worked like dogs in an environment that made people sick often. Most of the time our directors cared more about stats then the actual job itself and all policy's reflected that ******** attitude.


Having left that place I have not got so much as a flu in the last 2 years.

That job was genuinely making me ill all the time and I would be practically punished for it.

**** that noise **** it in the arse.

I do not live to be some slave like that, life is not about that!!



Gosh you have no idea how happy I am I dont work there anymore.


Going back on topic a bit more now I think sick pay should really reflect the enviorment you work in tbh. Certain work environments can make people more or less prone to being ill and I think the policy of the company who that work environment pertains too should reflect that.

Unfortunately most places of work do not reflect that and we should all take a moment to poo on there chests :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
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