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Well the fact that they have not decided on an engine partner for next year, surely that means they cant have Merc's
Thats just complete BS (not what you are actually saying), the fact that one manufacturer - that just happened to fail completely the last two attempts it had at F1 - can have as many teams on the grid as it wants, yet a team who is successful with a supplier has to get completely ****** , wonder if Brawn can buy out Force India's contract with Merc lol
Seems doubly strange then that Brawn doesnt seem to definitely want Merc's again then
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Ah fair enough, thanks for that.
I think Brawn are simply seeing their options right now - plus with not even knowing they will be in F1 next season or in a new racing series they are waiting.
Soldato
^^ What Rypt says. No point rushing into a decision when you don't know what will be happening next year.
No different to Flavio being team boss of Renault, as well as being personal manager to one or both of his drivers most seasons (although its Renault's choice and no-one else's, its still pretty dodgy)
There was always a question mark over impartiality of stewards - and this kind of dual role shouldnt be allowed at all, let alone something so relatively high up in the FIA.
Not that surprising however
The amount of issues there seem to be its getting less and less likely that any recognisable F1 will exist beyond this year.
The other major issue (for me anyway) is - the name of the sport doesnt matter one bit in one sense, but the tracks do , I cant see how any rival series set up by Ferrari / Renault / Red Bull / who ever else would ever be allowed to use Monaco, Spa, Hockenheim (I would have included Silverstone but after this weekend it doesnt matter lol).
I think Monaco are prepared to walk and go with FOTA series from some reports.
There is no reason for why Spa cannot host an extra race a year either.
Besides we could return to Imola - one of the best circuits ever, and the A1 ring - after all Red Bull own the track.
There is Adelaide if Albert Park is unwilling to host; there is Zandvoort.
Soldato
So.. why are the rules decided by a Peverted Nazi sex maniac and some dude who looks like hes stuck in the 60's era?
Please briefly explain
As posted in the Turkish F1 thread (soon to be closed) can someone please explain.
because they created f1, hold all the rights to everything. Including circuits, tv and everything else. if their is a break away series (which I doubt will happen) You can bet 90+% of those circuits are tied into some contractual agreement not to let them race their. Max & bernie are not stupid and they love their contracts.
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=46124
Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo expects his team to be in some form of Formula 1 series next year - but reiterated that it will either be an FIA championship altered to FOTA's liking, or a breakaway rival led by the teams.
Carmakers in F1 breakaway warning
All 10 current Formula 1 teams have been included on the list of entrants for the 2010 season, though five of those are on a conditional basis.
But this happens every few years. I see no reason why this won't end up like all teh others in no more than a shouting match and Max changes just enough rules to keep them in F1.
Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo expects his team to be in some form of Formula 1 series next year - but reiterated that it will either be an FIA championship altered to FOTA's liking, or a breakaway rival led by the teams.
Carmakers in F1 breakaway warning
All 10 current Formula 1 teams have been included on the list of entrants for the 2010 season, though five of those are on a conditional basis.
But this happens every few years. I see no reason why this won't end up like all teh others in no more than a shouting match and Max changes just enough rules to keep them in F1.
I hope they sort it out, seems like a complete mess at the moment. I do not understand why Max is so hellbent on forcing his rules on the teams when the teams have stood together and explained how they want to improve the sport. He just comes across as a stuborn old man. I fail to see how it would harm the sport if the teams were given what they want, however Max is practically destroying the integrity and image of the sport with his lack of co-operation. It just seems so petty.
I don't believe a breakaway series will be a good thing either, there will be too much conflict with advertising, tv rights, contracts with circuits and sponsors, not to mention the additional cost to the teams if they are going to support their own series.
It'll be like A1GP, a great idea but I can't say I've ever bothered watching it (not that it's even on terrestrial TV?).
Fingers crossed that a solution will be found.
I don't believe a breakaway series will be a good thing either, there will be too much conflict with advertising, tv rights, contracts with circuits and sponsors, not to mention the additional cost to the teams if they are going to support their own series.
It'll be like A1GP, a great idea but I can't say I've ever bothered watching it (not that it's even on terrestrial TV?).
Fingers crossed that a solution will be found.
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_feature_item.php?fes_art_id=38176
A great piece on the boredom F1 still is and F1 slowly dieing on it's backside.
A great piece on the boredom F1 still is and F1 slowly dieing on it's backside.
Trouble is you are never going to get racing back like that. You can't change to rubbish brake compounds or make the cars rubbish. That isn't what F1 is about. Also then all the brakes and other parts on the lower series would be better than F1 cars.
Love the idea of one drum of fuel and they can do anything they like. Totally agree that there is no innovation, which is an essential part of F1.
Soldato
I've always advocated limiting fuel quantity as a means of restricting the performance of the cars whilst also driving the development of road relevant technologies.
As a side effect you'd probably have cars where you can dial in extra power when you need it at the risk of running out of gas if you use it too much (much like the turbo days) which should improve the racing in the way that KERS was supposed to whilst also adding some interest at the end of races. These days the cars are so reliable that the last half of the race is a non-event without even the prospect of a mechanical failure to liven things up, with limited fuel there's always the chance that the quick car miles out front will suddenly have to slow to save fuel or even run out completely.
On another note the FIA/FOTA war has reached tedium overload:
from FOTA PR said:
So in summary "We just thought we'd comment to say that we don't intend to comment"
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Who can they be referring to
Clearly, it can't be Stefano Domenicali of Ferrari who would seem to be the obvious suspect, nor can it be Ross Brawn; no way could it be Ron Dennis, surely?
Frankly this whole dispute is distracting attention from the racing, isn't it time that for the good of the business, Max Mosley was encouraged to spend more time in a dungeon?
Soldato
Who can they be referring to
Clearly, it can't be Stefano Domenicali of Ferrari who would seem to be the obvious suspect, nor can it be Ross Brawn; no way could it be Ron Dennis, surely?
"certain FOTA members not present at the meeting"