***Official 2010 F1 thread***
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So... have Cosworth managed to become the biggest player in the F1 grid in one fell swoop, and the FIA have effectively managed to get a standardised engine into the Formula as Cosworth will have half the grid?
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Campos
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Red Bull?
BMW?
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Williams
Red Bull?
BMW?
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Sauber have announced a supply of ferrari engines if they get a spot, and whilst Red Bull are aiming to get a merc deal, I doubt they'll dump the proven renault engines for the cosworth.
Certainly looking that way. Considering the engine hasn't run in a car yet, there is a hell of a lot resting on it. Who remembers what it was like in 2006 in the FW28? Powerful lump... when it worked...
Nothing is really known about BMW-Sauber even being in F1 next year - it does appear that Ferrari engines may well be supplied there
Red Bull may well go to Mercedes *If McLaren will allow it* but who really knows - Mercedes to supply 4 teams? McLaren, Red Bull, Brawn, Force India
Campos, Manor, Lotus, USF1 and Williams are all Cosworth powered in 2010 though - which is pretty good for Cosworth @ $5million per team.
Oh, and Williams to announce it's driver lineup on monday.
There are obviously some good Cosworth specs floating around under NDA's that the general public dont know about.
Although, it is all but admitted by the FIA that only new team entrys that signed up with Cosworth would be considered for the new slots.
Although, it is all but admitted by the FIA that only new team entrys that signed up with Cosworth would be considered for the new slots.
i don't think F1 engines are made for profit, more like brake even if your lucky.
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But making 120 *12 per car - 10 cars* of the same engine design is going to be significantly more cost effective than 48.
I know that making 4 damper shafts in titanium for F1 would cost us around £800 each. If we made 20, it dropped to £350 each. We still sold them for the same though.
It wouldn't surprise me if Cosworth did turn a profit on these - it's based off the CA2006 iirc and just updated rather than a total new design. I seem to remember someone asking how much of the DFV design was still in the CA2006 - and the response from a Mr Costin was "more than a little"
You may well be able to trace fairly large chunks of design there directly back to 1967.
You may well be able to trace fairly large chunks of design there directly back to 1967.
Hey, if it ain't broke....
As he has been in the 2nd half of ever season since he has been at ferrari. Every single year without fail at ferrari he's rumoured to be dumped mid season. Then he picks his game up.
He lacks any consistency and I'm sure If he contract wasn't so expensive he would have been bought out last year. Massa has more than given him a run for him money for a 10th of the money and ability.
Clearly his car set up ability shows up the fact he drive about 20 races before he came to F1. Its also telling he lost consistency when the gadgets were removed.
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I didn't realise Brawn stopped all bonus payouts during the season for the staff at Brackley. I bet that's a motivated crew they got there, might explain the lack of developement since they pulled the bonus
Wait until the team starts winning then pull the points bonus
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I don't agree.
Ecclestone drones on and on about the need to reduce costs in F1 and then plans to increase the already massive proposed charges at Silverstone by 7% per year.
I think that it is long past time that money was diverted away from F1 in order to make it more responsive to the watching public - let Ecclestone organise a GP in Afghanistan if he wants to
I don't agree.
Ecclestone drones on and on about the need to reduce costs in F1 and then plans to increase the already massive proposed charges at Silverstone by 7% per year.
I think that it is long past time that money was diverted away from F1 in order to make it more responsive to the watching public - let Ecclestone organise a GP in Afghanistan if he wants to
I agree, the whole Donnington debacle has been a disgrace and it appears the only real agenda was the demise of the british gp. The gp only came back on the agenda because of the possibility of a break away series.
Whilst I love the british gp, the tickets cost too much soif it goes I won't be that sad.
CSI would be able to answer this, though I assume 1000s.
would be good to see who made the most development over the season and how much they improved with them
McLaren probably have the most improved car, over the course of the season, so its possible they also had the most developments.
Apparently Ferrari have put a lot of resources into developing the 2010 cars, which means fewer improvements were made to the 2009 car.
Apparently Ferrari have put a lot of resources into developing the 2010 cars, which means fewer improvements were made to the 2009 car.
You may well be able to trace fairly large chunks of design there directly back to 1967.
They should just re-hire Goddard and the rest of the old Cosworth lot to make this new F1 engine, knowing him it would be the best engine in the field
i can see massive things from bruno