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Thrown together at the last minute with an arc welder and an angle grinder, like on Scrapheap Challenge.
i heard he made a prototype out of beer matts and got all the smokers to stand infront of the car exhaling smoke so he could see how good the aerodynamics were.
thats pretty much spot on although the guys blowing smoke were on roll ups as they were not sure if they could afford B&H.
Hamilton has done well undoubtedly but the fact that it was McLaren that groomed him says it all - it could be said that Renault fluked at least one championship , McLaren are usually there or there abouts, they bought in a rookie practically gaurentee he would be at the top for many years (after all they didnt just discover him, they knew him for years before)
A team further down the grid giving a break to a llittle known driver is a completely different kettle of fish, less money spent on him or grooming him for stardom
The amount of money spent on Lewis was testiment to how well he would cope wiht the circus that is F1 well before he actually got there
Has anyone tried RealTimeRace yet?
"The revolutionary vfit™ and iflex™ technologies developed by Real Time Race enables users to compete in sporting events in ‘real time’,
from the comfort of their own home."
http://www.realtimerace.com/how-it-works
I think I will try this later
"The revolutionary vfit™ and iflex™ technologies developed by Real Time Race enables users to compete in sporting events in ‘real time’,
from the comfort of their own home."
http://www.realtimerace.com/how-it-works
I think I will try this later
Its why these days i try to stay out of F1 threads and let the armchair experts get on with it.
That will always be the case If you involved in a topic. We often have a laugh at work with the aircraft topics with all the experts/spotters.
If you have closer to inside knowledge it's bound to be annoying reading speculation/opinion.
I'm sure Rafa Benitez laughs at the football threads
Anyway I just hope your lot don't go cossie next year
About time you got your own manufacturer. BMW 
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Latest rumour I've heard on the McLaren/Mercedes front was that Mercedes would extend engine supply to McLaren until 2012 (currently ends in 2011 along with the exclusivity deal). In exchange McLaren would allow Mercedes to buy into Brawn and supply RBR, possibly as part of selling up the McLaren stake.
Mercedes CEO is currently in Abu Dhabi trying to work a deal.
I want Red Bull to be very competitive next season and Vettel and Webber to compete for wins - but I REALLY hope RB dont get Merc engines only because to have two thirds of the grid to be split between two different engines makes a mockery imo of having more cars on the grid in the first place
On a related question , when teams select an engine partner do they always get the gearbox supplied as well, Im pretty certain Brawn and FI have the same Merc gearbox as McLaren (Im sure its been mentioned on commentary although I cant remember when), but Im not sure about Renault/ Ferrari /Cosworth /Toyota ?
On a related question , when teams select an engine partner do they always get the gearbox supplied as well, Im pretty certain Brawn and FI have the same Merc gearbox as McLaren (Im sure its been mentioned on commentary although I cant remember when), but Im not sure about Renault/ Ferrari /Cosworth /Toyota ?
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The gearbox is not something that comes with an engine, an engine supplier only supplies an engine.
FIF1 get a McLaren gearbox as part of their technical partnership with McLaren and Mercedes.
Brawn I believe run and develop their own gearbox.
Agreed, may as well have a single engine format and put the engine out to tender like the tyres
I'm half convinced thats what the FIA are working towards anyway.Although it is better now the teams/manufacturers sell an engine but cannot upgrade themselves. Atleast the specs of the units are the same where as in years gone by you would never expect a customer lump to beat the one in the works team consistently.
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Thanks for the info - I must have imagined Martin saying something about the Merc/McLaren gearbox in the Brawn (Ross over the last weeks thanked McLaren for all their help over the winter....wonder if that was gearbox related)
Agreed, may as well have a single engine format and put the engine out to tender like the tyres
Although it is better now the teams/manufacturers sell an engine but cannot upgrade themselves. Atleast the specs of the units are the same where as in years gone by you would never expect a customer lump to beat the one in the worst team consistently.
Very true I hadnt thought of that, there is also this engine "equalisation" over the winter also to make all the non cosy units as similar as possible which is to my mind reverse of what it should be in F1 (being cream of the crop)
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I think that might just be thanking McLaren that they didn't block Mercedes from supplying them.
I think thats correct as they had some early issues to sort to make sure the engine didn't over torque the gearbox.