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Right. So the RB is mighty, the Ferrari is fragile, the Aston genuinely rather decent, the Merc not great and the McLaren is the starting money special-est of starting money specials. That about cover it?
Poll: Official 2023 Bahrain Grand Prix Race Thread - Sakhir Circuit - Race 1/23
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Soldato
Well it's the teams that have to take these drivers on when their budgets are stretched and not like any of the drivers forced their way in. Bit of a silly statement really because football, thankfully as I despise the corruption in that sport and the players behaviour, doesn’t compare. There are other drivers that contribute to their seats, Alonso for example, in the sponsorship they bring...
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For this race maybe but the season is yet young..
Is Sainz a pay driver? He brings sponsorship from Estrella Galicia? Is Perez as he beings money from Telmex?
with the budget caps most teams are in the position of not requiring pay drivers.
Not sure how many races or qualifying sessions I'll bother to tune in to this season. If you're a RBR fan of course enjoy it but I'm not that way inclined.
I was hoping for more of 2021 with this regulation change, with a 3 or 4 way battle at the front, looks like it'll be happening for the final podium places which is good, but we want 6-8 cars competing for the title.
There's a reason the most memorable season I can remember is 2012 still.
I think the gap is significantly bigger than at any point last season. Even with the penalties RBR will get I don't see any team getting close to them.
I was hoping for more of 2021 with this regulation change, with a 3 or 4 way battle at the front, looks like it'll be happening for the final podium places which is good, but we want 6-8 cars competing for the title.
There's a reason the most memorable season I can remember is 2012 still.
I think the gap is significantly bigger than at any point last season. Even with the penalties RBR will get I don't see any team getting close to them.
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It also shows that Red Bull’s ‘punishment’ for the budget cap breach is toothless as it came far too late to curtail development of this years car. Next season is when it will really bite.
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I don't think any merc fan has a right to be moaning about RB after their top talent just got overtaken by an Aston Martin and then pulled out a huge lead within a few laps.
Big issues for Merc to resolve to be even with a chance of podium results it seems.
And the ferraris need to stop breaking down!
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Regardless of when it's your favourite driver or not in that position. You can still be aware of the fact it detracts from the show to have such dominance. That and when the pack will probably actually start closing in once more for the 3rd time in a row we will be offered a whole new set of regulations again...
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That's funny. 'cause I cannot recall much about the 2012 season at all beyond the God-awful nose designs on the cars. Oh, and the whole 'seven different winners in seven races' deal...which I believe was matched by the NASCAR Truck series that same year
Soldato
Happy for Nando. However there are wider concerns for the "f1 brand" in my opinion. I recall the dullness of the complete Ferrari domination with Schumy, and that's why I was happy when Max beat Lewis the other year to end the Merc domination. Right at the end of that era, we had Red Bull challenging Merc, Mcclaren had a car with pace and the midfield was tight.
The new regs have brought red bull dominance, and I can't see it changing until much later in the era as things normalise towards one central design.
Normally, as f1 fans, we'd just have to accept it, what concerns me is the wider global liberty media audience getting bored, and then random things happen to try and make it more interesting that waters down the sport.
The new regs have brought red bull dominance, and I can't see it changing until much later in the era as things normalise towards one central design.
Normally, as f1 fans, we'd just have to accept it, what concerns me is the wider global liberty media audience getting bored, and then random things happen to try and make it more interesting that waters down the sport.
Not really sure I'll keep the f1tv subscription up.
Alpine fallen backwards and drivers that don't really interest me.
RBR continued and probably enhanced dominance.
No other real changes (except AM)
Only interest is how alonso (favourite driver) does.
But its the first full race I've watched and I it was significantly more boring than the C4 highlights.
May end up going back to c4. Thier highlights show is ideal
Alpine fallen backwards and drivers that don't really interest me.
RBR continued and probably enhanced dominance.
No other real changes (except AM)
Only interest is how alonso (favourite driver) does.
But its the first full race I've watched and I it was significantly more boring than the C4 highlights.
May end up going back to c4. Thier highlights show is ideal
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It will never bite it was a nothing punishment
The same as when Merc dominated then. Given your username it’s clear why you feel the way you do now.
Doubt it. RB seem to really understand their car and have a strong concept - same with Ferrari.
I said it in the testing thread; the Merc looks like they tried to force the same flawed design, whereas other cars look cleaner.
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My point is any kid can be great at football. Some of the best in the world are from some of the poorest places imaginable. It would be great if Motorsport was financed better at the grassroots level you would get a lot better competition and skill.
100%, and it wasn’t even that long ago. It took other teams years to just get their engines near Merc. Merc and Lewis made for an incredibly boring combination.
The hubris from them thinking they had found something other teams had missed and not wanting to admit the error has cost them
It's taken seeing a customer car that has the same engine, gearbox and suspension with a bit of redbull aero beat them for them to admit they might have to change their design.
The only question now is what do we call the Black AM when it shows up later this season Mercopies or Tracedes
They lost development time, which is not a nothing punishment. The Merc fans wanted them to lose their title, which is hilarious because that wouldn’t have affected the new car.
$500k overspend doesn’t buy you this level of dominance.
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F1 has fewer pay drivers these days, not more. Alonso, Hamilton, Ocon, etc are the exception not the rule; most F1 drivers come from money because it's a bloody expensive sport. It's not like you can lob a few jumpers down and have a kart race in your local park.
Absolute rubbish. Latifi may not have been top drawer but he wasn't complete trash either - and, okay, that Russian kleptocrat's son was worse - but they're also the two worst drivers in recent F1 history. They're notable because they're not up to the standards of most of the drivers on the grid.
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