Poll: Official 2024 Las Vegas Grand Prix Race Thread - Las Vegas Strip Circuit - Race 22/24

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Congratulations to Max, one of the most
Mr Jack said:
Hard to say, isn't it? He's older than Seb was when he got his fourth. He could go on and get many more, or he could spend years watching other drivers win. He always gives the impression that he's not all that happy in F1, I wonder whether we'll see him go off to race in other areas if he goes a few years without a WDC? Which, tbh, seems more likely than not. I don't see RB as favourites next year or favourites to nail the 2026 regulations.
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Especially with their own engine going in at the same time, way too many variables. Will be impressive if they some how pull it off.

Congrats to Max - not so much to Perez. :p
 
Mr Jack said:
Hard to say, isn't it? He's older than Seb was when he got his fourth. He could go on and get many more, or he could spend years watching other drivers win. He always gives the impression that he's not all that happy in F1, I wonder whether we'll see him go off to race in other areas if he goes a few years without a WDC? Which, tbh, seems more likely than not. I don't see RB as favourites next year or favourites to nail the 2026 regulations.
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He certainly doesn't seem like a driver that's going to go on and on in F1 like many do; I reckon he fancies a shot a things like WEC/Le Mans as well at some point; something Red Bull can't offer him and really something that isn't compatible with a full-time F1 driver (well maybe a Le Mans on-off is).

Next year will be interesting; I expect much the same but given teams aren't allowed to start work on the '26 car before 2025 there clearly will be some development to the '24 cars (in previous eras many teams would have just thrown the last year of a regulation "era" and focused on the new one for more than a season); both Red Bull and Mercedes need some - Red Bull to try and get back to the front, and Mercedes to try and get more consistency out the car.
 
Kenai said:
Yeah, you never really get the feeling that Max loves F1 in the way you might see from someone like Hamilton, I think his love is racing and competition in general and it wouldn't surprise me to see him become the first person since Graham Hill to go on and collect the triple crown, racing in various series. Once Hamilton packs it in, I don't think we'll see him in endurance etc. in any serious capacity.
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There is no way he will race in a crapshoot like the Indy 500 IMO. He's shown zero interest in oval racing on iRacing as well.

Le Mans, WEC, porsche super cup etc I would fully expect.
 
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Dup said:
Ferrari will find a strategic way to throw away the constructors anyway, I'd say it's McLarens to lose of course but I can't see them throwing any more points away, they've had one of the better cars all season.
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Ferrari have been stronger than McLaren at the start and end of the season, and they also have the better drive lineup: Leclerc is a better driver than Norris, and whilst I think Piastri will be up there with the best, he's still only in his second season and can't yet match Sainz. It's going to be close between them. A mistake, or a technical problem, could swing it either way. Truly embarrassing for Red Bull that they've not turned their car advantage into a clear WCC - although they haven't had the best car all through the season, it was much the best at the start and has never been less than 3rd fastest while things have swung back and forth between the other three. Swap Pérez with any of the drivers from other three and that WCC would be beyond doubt.
 
imtoooldforthis said:
Very debatable given he's far more error-prone than Norris.
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In previous years, yeah, I can see that. But this year? No, Norris has made more mistakes than Leclerc who has been much more consistent. But, more importantly I think, Leclerc produces far more really stand out performances than Norris - especially in Quali, but also in races we've seen Leclerc win many more races when he wasn't in a car with a major advantage. Plus, we've seen Leclerc tested against quality opposition and come out on top in a way Norris hasn't: Leclerc rocked up as number two driver to Vettel in only his second season and not only beat him but did so with such style that he drove him out of the team, Norris meanwhile was still losing to Sainz in his second season.

Freakbro said:
I was wondering yesterday how much money does he bring in compared to what he's potentially lost them in the constructors table?
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It's expected to be a bit shy of $10 million between the places for the top three, so about $20m lost. Plus he's done more damage to his car than any other driver (at least by amateur estimation) to the tune of almost $5m compared to Max's under $1m. Seems a lot.
 
Bazzards said:
Perez is only there because of the money he brings.
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OK so if a single driver can outbid the money offered for winning constructors then surely there's something a bit wrong with the prize money offered.

Ultimately I don't think RB care that much about $$ or the constructors as much as people think. The team could be funded for eternity by Red Bull GmbH and they don't need the accolade as much as every other team on the grid
 
Has there been any technical commentary/analysis anywhere about why the Mercs may have been quick? Would be interested to read. Talk of it being due to the colder temps. So would that mean Merc are harder on tyres and generate more heat into them possibly?
 
jaybee said:
Has there been any technical commentary/analysis anywhere about why the Mercs may have been quick? Would be interested to read. Talk of it being due to the colder temps. So would that mean Merc are harder on tyres and generate more heat into them possibly?
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There's some here form Mark Hughes - the view seems to be a combination of them being better at getting heat into their tyres giving them pace in quali and avoiding graining in the race, and the smooth surface letting them run the kind of low ride heights that suit the car best. Meanwhile their competitors had problems of their own with the conditions really not working for McLaren and Red Bull not having a rear wing tuned to this kind of track.
 
Mr Jack said:
There's some here form Mark Hughes - the view seems to be a combination of them being better at getting heat into their tyres giving them pace in quali and avoiding graining in the race, and the smooth surface letting them run the kind of low ride heights that suit the car best. Meanwhile their competitors had problems of their own with the conditions really not working for McLaren and Red Bull not having a rear wing tuned to this kind of track.
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Rather a unique set of circumstances with the very cold ambient and track temperatures as well. Could all be so different this weekend..
 
iamtheoneneo said:
OK so if a single driver can outbid the money offered for winning constructors then surely there's something a bit wrong with the prize money offered.

Ultimately I don't think RB care that much about $$ or the constructors as much as people think. The team could be funded for eternity by Red Bull GmbH and they don't need the accolade as much as every other team on the grid
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Its only difference between say 1st and 3rd in the WCC that Perez is effectively "funding" not the entire thing.
Also the prize money isn't officially declared but in 2023 it was estimated that 1st won $140 million, 2nd $131m and 3rd $122m so that's the "funding" gap.

Although your right Red Bull as a company probably are less concerned about it than some teams are.
 
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