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I would genuinely find it hilarious if he is still there next year.
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I would genuinely find it hilarious if he is still there next year.
It sounded like both Helmet and Horner reprimanded Lawson over how he drove against Perez, so he probably is safe.
RB should get Colapinto.
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Weird to reprimand Lawson over Peréz's shoddy driving.
He'd be an interesting choice for them, but taking another driver from outside their academy is going to seriously damage the reputation and status of that academy. They've got a host of talent in F2 and F3 so to leave them on the sidelines for a driver from another academy would be a striking move, especially with Hadjar having been well ahead of Colapinto in both F3 and F2.
I think Colapinto will stay as Williams' reserve next year, although I'd like to see him get a seat at Sauber/Audi.
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so a bit like saying.. "playing cards with normal people is fine as they don't cheat.. "... "playing cards with Max is not fine as he cheats.. "
Just answer one q. Do you think what you are stating is fair? i.e. other drivers have to do something different around one driver who refuses to follow simple racing etiquette, and rules, and is at times just downright dangerous.
100% agree. If anything it should give Lawson more credit for that seat than Perez. Maybe something will change now that his home/Mexican GP is over.
Yea, they've got an interesting pipeline of drivers, just feels like they have a pretty lacklustre setup outside of Max right now.
Just feels like a shame to have the likes of Perez and Stroll get seats, when we could see proper talent.
I hope Lawson isn't stifled by any reprimand he got. He should want to out perform Perez and get into that top car. Yes there are business decisions behind the scenes which are all the top management care about, but from a racing point of view they still need to be at the top end of the field.
Can you not see that your argument is essentially to give way to Max? This means that drivers should avoid going wheel to wheel with him. This means that drivers cannot compete against him fairly. This means that Max would be given special treatment and an unfair advantage since he is deemed too dangerous to race against.
F1 should never allow a driver to conduct himself in a way that endangers others and causes safety issues to the point that drivers have to treat them very differently. All drivers are meant to behave in a certain way to prevent horrible accidents. There are things you simply don't do. Like brake testing people, dive bombing to the point where an accident will happen if another driver does not take avoiding action, moving very late at 200mph, moving under braking etc. You can't make allowances for a driver on fundamental safety issues because he has developed an aggressive style over the years. Unfortunately this has come about due to years of Max both getting away with it from the stewards, and being gas lighted by his own team that what he is doing is fine. You only have to look at Christian's attempt to fight it, to see how in denial they all are, which is sadly what we have come to expect from Red Bull.
If you look at Max's incidents as if AI was judging it, that did not know the history and who the drivers were/are, judged incidents on two cars fighting within the rules and guidelines with no bias, the driver at fault in all of these cases would be consistently Max. Can you not understand how ridiculous it would be to then have to teach the AI about Max individually and to make allowances just for him? You would then have to teach the AI about all the other drivers and their styles, history, status etc and form weightings as to leniency and how you may allow exceptions based on X, Y, Z. It is completely unmanageable.
Still seems crazy to me that Red Bull didn't snap up Sainz to be honest .
I understand that relationships and internal politics likely stifled it, but it's a shame they couldn't overcome it.
If they aren't the clear fastest car from next year, they could have really done with a driver like Sainz. He'd score constant good points and pick up the slack if Max was having an off weekend/having issues).
I understand that relationships and internal politics likely stifled it, but it's a shame they couldn't overcome it.
If they aren't the clear fastest car from next year, they could have really done with a driver like Sainz. He'd score constant good points and pick up the slack if Max was having an off weekend/having issues).
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RBR can’t be blind to Perez being the main reason they’ll be 3rd in the Constructor’s Championship this year.
I guess Perez must bring in enough sponsorship to offset the loss in money from not winning the WCC.
I guess Perez must bring in enough sponsorship to offset the loss in money from not winning the WCC.
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Perez brings in big sponsorship money and isn’t going to rock the boat like a rookie trying to prove a point.
However 1st to 3rd looks like a $20mil black hole.
I think the real issue is RB don’t have a clear replacement. Daniel Ricciardo has lost his edge. yuki tsunoda is average at best. carlos sainz would have been too close and they have history. liam lawson is a hot head rookie (who has shown promise).
Not an easy call.
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I cant see Perez being there next year. He is not contributing towards the Constructors championship points enough...
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How true it is, but supposedly his buyout clause is $5 million
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I can't see it being that low. That'd be chump change compared to the amount RB would lose going from 1st to 2nd in the WCC, let alone 1st to 3rd.
If it was, then they would shirley have dumped him already
If it was, then they would shirley have dumped him already
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I'll be surprised if there isn't a performance clause they can use to bin him
https://www.planetf1.com/features/c...-verstappen-mexico-gp-telemetry-data-analysis This is different from the one i read which I now can't find...
How? Where was Max meant to go? Through the Ferrari? lol
I think modern F1 cars tend to be fitted with brakes, he could have used those
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Max is afforded these situations because he know he won't die or get hurt when it does go wrong, if he was racing in a previous time you know he'd be long dead by now which you probably wouldn't say of other top drivers like Alonso or Hamilton who have adjusted their racing craft as the rules and cars have changed. I struggle to remember one really great Max overtake where he hasn't just shoved it up the inside forcing the other driver off the track and hoped for the best.
Not sure If slamming on the brakes in the situation would be safe, he was sandwiched between the McClaren and Ferrari.
Lando rule, once along side, drivers must now brake and let him past. Can see that catching on.
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