****Official 6850/6870 Reviews thread****

[RavenXXX2]

It's simple, the 470 is basically on par with a 6870, the 470 is known to clock very well, result from the 6870 clocking look poor and there is no guarantee of volt adjustment as with some non reference 5850/70 cards. I guess we will have to see some 6870 OC v 470 OC results but needles to say a 470 overclocked to 750+ on the core nets massive gains in performance.

Does not compute with Guru's review? Both Dirt 2 and Metro 2033 work better on 6870.

Hardly tessellation heavy titles, I guess the 6870's massive 900 core helps it out in these titles. See the heaven benchmarks for tessellation performance, it's not much better than 5850 performance from the results I've seen.

 

[Final8y]

RavenXXX2 get your butt in gear & pull those reviews in.

 

[Mr Krugga]

It's simple, the 470 is basically on par with a 6870, the 470 is known to clock very well, result from the 6870 clocking look poor and there is no guarantee of volt adjustment as with some non reference 5850/70 cards. I guess we will have to see some 6870 OC v 470 OC results but needles to say a 470 overclocked to 750+ on the core nets massive gains in performance.

Care to provide me with some numbers? I'd really like to verify your superlatives.

Hardly tessellation heavy titles, I guess the 6870's massive 900 core helps it out in these titles. See the heaven benchmarks for tessellation performance, it's not much better than 5850 performance from the results I've seen.

Please do list me some tessellation heavy titles as well.

6850 oced was almost 16%. Granted not the 30% of the 460s but not 5-7%.

GTX460 doesn't achieve 30% overclock with no voltage increase though. My 5850 that does 35% on core can only go by 15% at stock volts.

 

[RavenXXX2]

Google it.

 

[Mr Krugga]

Google it.

I don't really like the idea of playing Heaven mate.

 

[RavenXXX2]

Good indication of tessellation performance Nearly every review site benches it.

 

[Mr Krugga]

Good indication of tessellation performance Nearly every review site benches it.

The only problem with Heaven is not being a game. Radeons don't do well in Folding either. It doesn't make them bad video cards though.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Good indication of tessellation performance Nearly every review site benches it.

Its not a good indication of game performance though as has been shown in the guru review.

 

[kylew]

Good indication of tessellation performance Nearly every review site benches it.

Are you seriously trying to pass of the Heaven Benchmark as a "title"? Seriously?

 

[HighlandeR]

I must be tempory idiot, im seeing bad company 2/crysis/metro benchies and 6870 1gig is 3-5 fps in some cases compared to a 5870 yet under 200 quid ?

Is this not like an amazing card then?!

 

[Gerard]

Are you seriously trying to pass of the Heaven Benchmark as a "title"? Seriously?

At least till he flip flops to a cayman board, then that argument will vanish.

 

[RavenXXX2]

The only problem with Heaven is not being a game. Radeons don't do well in Folding either. It doesn't make them bad video cards though.

Of course it does not make them bad. Interesting quote from the overclocking results from Guru you posted, I support this view.

 

[Mr Krugga]

Of course it does not make them bad. Interesting quote from the overclocking results from Guru you posted, I support this view.

Yep, 6870 is supposedly a bad overclocker (6850 isn't). Can you lmgtfy at least one title where tessellation has a better use than in Metro 2033 or Dirt 2? I'm really poor in searching for things that don't exist.

I must be tempory idiot, im seeing bad company 2/crysis/metro benchies and 6870 1gig is 3-5 fps in some cases compared to a 5870 yet under 200 quid ?

Is this not like an amazing card then?!

Yes it is, but Rroff will tell you that it doesn't overclock as well as GTX470 does and Raven will tell you that it's significantly slower in those future DirectX 11 titles that nobody knows about. Meaning that however you would admire this card, they will find a reason not to buy it.

 

[titaniumx3]

I think AMD made a huge mistake naming it a 6870. If they named it 6770 I think people would be far more amazed.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Of course it does not make them bad. Interesting quote from the overclocking results from Guru you posted, I support this view.

I have no idea why he said that as going by his results a 5% increase in core speed was netting around 4%-5% at the higher resolutions. I don't think any nvidia cards can do any better.

 

[Broken Hope]

They are offering 5870 performance, with new features, better AF quality, a new type of AA and the ability to turn off all the optimisations for £100 less. Who cares what it's called?

 

[Omega]

Yes it's a good card for the price. But remember the 5870 is a year old now

 

[Stanners]

I agree with the naming but lets not dampen the launch. It looks quite a nice card. I was thinking of getting rid of the 470 for one but seems a bit pointless. I will hold on for the next release i think.

I also must say i am enjoying the ATI damage limitation brigade that is present on tonights forum, good job boys/girls keep it up.

 

[Mr Krugga]

I think AMD made a huge mistake naming it a 6870. If they named it 6770 I think people would be far more amazed.

I'm pretty sure if they named the card 6770 and tried to sell it for £200 whilst well received 460 1GB would be selling for £150, we would not only see a drop in prices but possible a market crash for AMD

 

[Locky]

the ATI card should have been £189inc, would be nice.