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weird, cause I use MaxxMEM and it showed significant improvement with 1600/CL11 over 1333/CL9.
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*** Official AMD Phenom II X6 1055T & 1090T Overclocking Thread ***
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personly higher mhz is better for read/write/copy,
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Gareth, at 2.8GHZ NB, do an everest benchmark with your RAM at 1600MHZ CL7 and screenie the CPUZ with the everest, I'll do the same..
ok ill do that after doctor who finish....
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If we are being anal its HT, for HyperTransport.
HTT, is HyperThreadingTechnology. As in the tech which gives core i7 quads 8 logical threads.
Also many people call it FSB, as many BIOS screens refer to it that way
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I decided today to try prime on vanilla settings to see where I'm starting from so I reset my BIOS to default values, and the results are pretty scary I think. This thing idles at low 30s, but after just 30 minutes of blend at 3.2GHz it's already at 50ºC. Small wonder I couldn't keep it cool enough at 4GHz with all 6 cores enabled no matter what
It's a warm sunny day here in Spain (~25ºC) but still looks too hot to me under load for such a low CPU frequency & default voltages, isn't it? Any of you who checked your idle/load temps before OCing mind share that info with me please?
Thanks
It's a warm sunny day here in Spain (~25ºC) but still looks too hot to me under load for such a low CPU frequency & default voltages, isn't it? Any of you who checked your idle/load temps before OCing mind share that info with me please?
Thanks
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what's your cpu cooler please gareth? my thermaltake is not that bad for what I know, I don't get it 
Used a silver thermal paste also, the best I could find here.
Used a silver thermal paste also, the best I could find here.
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Ok. Thanks. I'll go step by step. This is my first build after all. I'll mess with the fans and see if I can improve my airflow. My case sucks big time anyway so I'll probably need a new one
Soooooo
did we ever get a definative answer to whats optimal ?
ram @ higher frequency or lower frequency but tighter timings ? is there any real world advantage with higher frequency as the IMC only supports 1333 anyway
cpu-NB @ 2600 or does higher make a real world difference ? is 2600 fast enough to not keep the cores waiting or is 3000 needed ?
keep HT link @ default 2000 or let the bios bug clock it up to 2600 ? seems some older AMD cpu's benefitted from a higher HTT but do the 6 cores ?
suppose Im asking is it better to have a high cpu-NB with lower frequency ram and tighter timings or a lower cpu-NB but higher frequency ram and looser timings (probably higher volts too)
or perhaps a high cpu-NB and higher frequency ram as long as the temps dont shoot up because of the higher voltage needed
my cpu is rock solid @4ghz so im just trying to optimise the rest to get best performance without a hit on high temps or over doing what dont need to be done as it provides no benefit
did we ever get a definative answer to whats optimal ?
ram @ higher frequency or lower frequency but tighter timings ? is there any real world advantage with higher frequency as the IMC only supports 1333 anyway
cpu-NB @ 2600 or does higher make a real world difference ? is 2600 fast enough to not keep the cores waiting or is 3000 needed ?
keep HT link @ default 2000 or let the bios bug clock it up to 2600 ? seems some older AMD cpu's benefitted from a higher HTT but do the 6 cores ?
suppose Im asking is it better to have a high cpu-NB with lower frequency ram and tighter timings or a lower cpu-NB but higher frequency ram and looser timings (probably higher volts too)
or perhaps a high cpu-NB and higher frequency ram as long as the temps dont shoot up because of the higher voltage needed
my cpu is rock solid @4ghz so im just trying to optimise the rest to get best performance without a hit on high temps or over doing what dont need to be done as it provides no benefit
Soooooo
did we ever get a definative answer to whats optimal ?
ram @ higher frequency or lower frequency but tighter timings ? is there any real world advantage with higher frequency as the IMC only supports 1333 anyway
cpu-NB @ 2600 or does higher make a real world difference ? is 2600 fast enough to not keep the cores waiting or is 3000 needed ?
keep HT link @ default 2000 or let the bios bug clock it up to 2600 ? seems some older AMD cpu's benefitted from a higher HTT but do the 6 cores ?
suppose Im asking is it better to have a high cpu-NB with lower frequency ram and tighter timings or a lower cpu-NB but higher frequency ram and looser timings (probably higher volts too)
or perhaps a high cpu-NB and higher frequency ram as long as the temps dont shoot up because of the higher voltage needed
my cpu is rock solid @4ghz so im just trying to optimise the rest to get best performance without a hit on high temps or over doing what dont need to be done as it provides no benefit
you'll probably find that none of them make that big an impact anyways except in synthetic benchies.
Even AMD say in they're Dragon Unleashed official overclocking guide that nothing compares to more megahertz on the CPU - i.e. don't sacrifice a higher CPU clock over higher CPU-NB.
With regards to high memory speed v's low latency - you'll find that as the memory gets faster the less it matters about latency - most of it is just bragging rights for synthetic benchies and will definately not make a difference for normal everyday use - does it matter?
I gave up pushing further yonks ago- more than happy with CPU @ 4Ghz - only running CPU-NB @ 2400 but thats cus I have 1600Mhz memory in all four banks. You have to make your sacrifices somewhere - for me, having 8GB of RAM (for allocating to VM's) far outways having a faster CPU-NB clock speed.
Get your overclocking sorted then get on with using your PC mate
Ive been ignoring it to a large degree anyway ... only notice a difference if I lower ram voltage .. if it is anything I tend to think its power circuitry related as it changes with volts ...
Mine tends to be 10C above TMPIN1 and has stayed around that so I'm only trying to keep TMPIN1 in check. recent days Ive been getting 48C-52C when maxing out all cores encoding video with ambient temps in mid 20C's so still got some margin to allow for hotter scorchio summer.
I did invest in a Fractal case though and its certainly quieter than the 900 but tends to be a few degrees hotter ... the Corasair H50 appears to have developed a slight whine so may have to RMA that if it gets worse
PC's love em and hate em but cant live without em .. grrr .. lol
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Finally got round to doing some tests comparing how CPU-NB affects things. Mostly how it affects overclocking. Also down clocked to show effective performance of the 1055T. You can find it on my sites forums in the link below. Hopefully have a proper review written up with pics etc, in next week or so.
http://forums.techngaming.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=134
http://forums.techngaming.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=134
interesting stuff ... but from what I can see in the real world the difference between stock cpu-nb and 2600 cpu-nb is not exactly going to be noticable or is it just me missunderstanding things as usual ..
in reality when a game is over 100fps can you notice a further 5 or 10 fps ??
then again would the difference be more noticable in a non gaming use ... when I tried various settings and encoding the only thing I could spot is maybe 1 or 2 seconds per minute speed increase ...
so back to my questions above .. ... is a cpu-nb providing more than enough at stock or does it really need to be clocked up by 400,600 or even a Ghz
OK no more questions .. lol ... just set as high as temps are happy to cope with
in reality when a game is over 100fps can you notice a further 5 or 10 fps ??
then again would the difference be more noticable in a non gaming use ... when I tried various settings and encoding the only thing I could spot is maybe 1 or 2 seconds per minute speed increase ...
so back to my questions above ..
... is a cpu-nb providing more than enough at stock or does it really need to be clocked up by 400,600 or even a Ghz OK no more questions .. lol ... just set as high as temps are happy to cope with
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At least in CineBench what my results showed, is that above 3.2 GHz, a 2 gHz CPU-NB is not enough, and it bottlenecks the performance.
Which means AMD have got the 1090T right within its own CPU-NB limits, lol.
I've got more things I could try, but I dont believe in synthetics, and most real world stuff that I have/use is GPU limited.
For the time being I'm actually running at stock as I prefer lower heat/power for virtually identical performance in games.
If anyone wants me to do the same comparisons on something else lmk. If I've got it, or its free Ill see what I can do
Which means AMD have got the 1090T right within its own CPU-NB limits, lol.
I've got more things I could try, but I dont believe in synthetics, and most real world stuff that I have/use is GPU limited.
For the time being I'm actually running at stock as I prefer lower heat/power for virtually identical performance in games.
If anyone wants me to do the same comparisons on something else lmk. If I've got it, or its free Ill see what I can do
