*** Official Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Thread ***

Not really, I find it a bit wrong tbh, theres a difference between fun and something thats just a bit sick. Not that I have a problem with people playing it, I just dont think it'll be particularly fun to play

It isn't sick because it isn't glorifying it, if you gunned down 5 innocents and the PA system in the airport screamed "MMMMMMMMMMOOONSSSTERRR KKILLLL" then you might have a point.

As it stands though, this part of the game isn't MEANT to be fun, it's meant to draw you in to the story and make you feel for the innocent people. It's a story about war and civilian casualties are a real part of war, there's no point closing your eyes and pretending it doesn't happen. Like I said before, if this was a movie nobody would bat an eyelid but because it's a computer game everyone's all up in arms. :rolleyes:
 
I've only watched a bit of the video as I don't want to spoil too much, but I think the airport scene could be really powerful if done correctly. As someone mentioned above it isn't glorifying death in the way that other games may have done and it certainly isn't killing for fun, it's calculated and chilling. I for one am looking forward to playing that, not to see hundreds of people masacred, but simply to discover the story that follows.
 
I agree with the statement about it being rated 18 so should be sold to people over that age.Unfortunately most parents simply choose to ignore that ratings on games and buy 18 games for their kids.
 
About time that a games company employs some of the emotional elements that cinema has been using to capture audience and ingratiate them into films.

Its one of the key lackings of video games, that ultimately, you don't feel anything (well, I know I don't.. I don't sit there thinking.. lucky I shot 3 real terrorists that round). Sure we've had some nutters that run off and kill a load of people, but they are unstable anyway.

I think its a step forward for storytelling (which is what this is) and immersion.
 
About time that a games company employs some of the emotional elements that cinema has been using to capture audience and ingratiate them into films.

Its one of the key lackings of video games, that ultimately, you don't feel anything (well, I know I don't.. I don't sit there thinking.. lucky I shot 3 real terrorists that round). Sure we've had some nutters that run off and kill a load of people, but they are unstable anyway.

I think its a step forward for storytelling (which is what this is) and immersion.

I agree completely gord, well put. I think this aspect of almost forcing the user to question his/her actions is a great step forward for storytelling and projects morals and reasoning into a game.

I think for too long many games (not all) have been devoid of any emotion, I think it was on Charlie Brookers' "Game-Wipe" a few weeks back a writer said that one of the problems he saw with game story-writers was that they had stopped reading books. In that respect they were loosing their edge in storywriting, how to portray emotions and how to get the user to "care" for characters on screen. He used the example of GTA: Vice City, that while the game was fun the story elements were very predictable, many scenes just lifted from "Scarface" and that the user really couldn't care less for any of the characters.

Hopefully this scene in MW:2 is received as a poignant and not distasteful, as it should set the scene for the rest of the game, which I hope will be equally as dramatic and suprising.
 
My God I am going to destroy this game when it comes out, been waiting for ages, played the hell out of COD4 on Xbox. Tried the PC version but hate it online, hackers, to much spamming etc.
 
Just watching the E3 vid. At he very start it says "these moppets" (even on the subs) shouldnt it be "muppets"

Or is a "moppet" something else?

 
Just watching the E3 vid. At he very start it says "these moppets" (even on the subs) shouldnt it be "muppets"

Or is a "moppet" something else? [/QUOTE=Zensuji;15201014]


"well son its not quiet a mop and not quiet a puppet"

simpsons quote IIRC :o
 
Don't you realise how backwards that sounds? You think it's better that the killing of innocents in GTA is more light hearted and trivial rather than showing how shocking, serious and deplorable the killing of innocents is like in that video? :rolleyes:

Never said it was better just said less serious, point I was trying to convey is that it cant really be compared with gta, I rememeber ambulances coming to attend the fallen in gta. Obviously in both gta and cod or any game, killing innocents is messed. What you are saying is its better to show the true horror to shock ppl, but not only does this realer type of kill shock ppl but it also Desensitises ppl. This game is going to be played many times by ppl, that level is going to be played many times too. You think that someone is going to play it once and get shocked then never play that level again???. You are all for shocking ppl with reality but do you think its still going to be a shock after the 10th time they have played that level??? The shock tactic you talk about would be great if it worked but lets be realistic here.

There will be more desensitising going on then shock…some ppl will actually play it again just for the shock factor, further desensitising themselves until they dont get shocked anymore and it becomes boring and they never play the level again...so at this point the player has no more shock in him because he is desensitised....the realer to life it gets the worse it is. You are already desensitised so much you are actually defending it… defending a level where you ARE the terrorist that goes around mowing inncoents down, isnt that backwards? I myself am desensitised too, if I wasn’t I wouldn’t be playing games with murder death kill in them, but I and creame egg also have still got that bit left in us to say hang on this is OTT.


It's a story about war and civilian casualties are a real part of war, there's no point closing your eyes and pretending it doesn't happen. Like I said before, if this was a movie nobody would bat an eyelid but because it's a computer game everyone's all up in arms. :rolleyes:

come on man, you watch a movie. in cod you are actually controlling the terrorist willingly and most likley pressing the right trigger button and killing shed loads, or at least given the choice.....and we dont need to know civilians die in wars because we already do, you hear it on the news everyday i bet....goes back to desensitising again the more of this we see(and now its being more realistically depicted in a video game more than ever i think and that we know underagers are going to play)the more we involve ourselves in this the more desensed we become and the next thing you know is we wont be shocked by it anymore. and when thats the case god knows what horrendous scene will be next for us to go down the process of being shocked to not shocked

also has such a scene ever been in a movie?? mass slaughter of civilians with machine guns in a non war state, i cant think of any but im not sure as i stopped watching movies years ago for this and other reasons.

it's meant to draw you in to the story and make you feel for the innocent people.

meant doesnt mean it will obviously, what about the kid in the vid? was he feeling for the innocents when he was blasting them?

what about yourself? from what i can see it seems like me and cream egg feel more for the innocents than you as we dont want to see them getting slaughtered like that but you are ok with it.......hmmmm do you need to see innocents get shafted to feel for them

anyways sorry to every1 if you find some of the stuff i said offending.
 
muggs you are funny.

I will be imagining tiny muggs on the faces of all the innocents I slaughter in CoD MW2.

Infact I will go home and dedicate some time on GTA to running helpless shoppers over for you.
 
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