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SimonRigga said:
I have flaming cliffs, but for the life of me I can't see how it's as accessible as "Ace Combat" or simliar.. I'm probably just doing it wrong.. what am I missing?
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I did say "Ace Combat for grown ups" and "more like IL2" ;)

Take the new addition to Flaming Cliffs - the F-86 Sabre- for example. You only need to map your axis (pitch,roll, yaw, wheel brake, throttle), start the engines (one key), start the electrics (one key), gear up/down (one key), flaps up/down (one key), one key for airbrake, one key to shoot guns, one key to shoot missiles, and 2 keys for using stationary gun reticle or a radar assisted one. DONE.

Take the F-15C as another example. Exactly the same axis and keys as the F-86 for plane control, electrics and engines, gear, flaps, airbrakes, guns and missiles. So you don't need to learn the cocpit and systems, the keybinds are shared. As F-15C is 30 years younger than the Sabre, you also get radar controls. And these radar controls are shared with all other Flaming Cliffs radar equiped fighters - F-5, Su-27, MiG-29.
The radar can be on/off, and you have 2 radar combat modes - long range and close range. In the long range mode, you can tilt the radar beam up/down/left/right, and you can change distance closer/further away. You also have to control the cursor on the radar screen to select targets. DONE! :) And, to reiterate, the controls are shared between planes in DCS Flaming Cliffs - like in IL2, where the same buttons control the Spitfire and the Fw-190.
 
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Borsch said:
I did say "Ace Combat for grown ups" and "more like IL2" ;)

<snip> gear up/down (one key), flaps up/down (one key), one key for airbrake, one key to shoot guns, one key to shoot missiles, and 2 keys for using stationary gun reticle or a radar assisted one. DONE.
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I clearly am missing something then, i've setup a few hot start (so I don't need the engine start or electonics start keys) F15-C missions, and I can take off, lift gear, change flaps.. ( I have those mapped along with air brakes, and wheel brakes for landing)

But I really can't find the "one key to shoot guns" and "one key to shoot missiles" stuff, in fact I don't think ive ever even managed to shoot anything from the plane (i.e. actually see a bullet or missles leave my plane, let alone actually hit anything!) and yes I have it fully loaded with missles etc..

It would be nice to be able to actually press the trigger and shoot, which is the bit i'm quite probably missing! :)
 
SimonRigga said:
I clearly am missing something then, i've setup a few hot start (so I don't need the engine start or electonics start keys) F15-C missions, and I can take off, lift gear, change flaps.. ( I have those mapped along with air brakes, and wheel brakes for landing)

But I really can't find the "one key to shoot guns" and "one key to shoot missiles" stuff, in fact I don't think ive ever even managed to shoot anything from the plane (i.e. actually see a bullet or missles leave my plane, let alone actually hit anything!) and yes I have it fully loaded with missles etc..

It would be nice to be able to actually press the trigger and shoot, which is the bit i'm quite probably missing! :)
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I don't have the F-15C but you depending on what weapon you are using, you will need to be in the right mode to use it. For examble you will need a radar lock before you can fire AIM-120B , so you would need to turn the radar on, select the mode you want to use, lock the target then fire.
Maybe start here

F-15C Training Missions

dcs.alexstoll.com dcs.alexstoll.com

 
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ak22 said:
I don't have the F-15C but you depending on what weapon you are using, you will need to be in the right mode to use it. For examble you will need a radar lock before you can fire AIM-120B , so you would need to turn the radar on, select the mode you want to use, lock the target then fire.

Start with this <snip>
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Thanks i'll take a look, but that's already 3 buttons to fire a single weapon? and i'm guessing simlar for the other types of weapons?

Whatever happend to a single button to swap between weapon types, (including changing radar modes or whatever else is required!) wait for the nice tone... then trigger to fire.. or if I feel like wasting missles for the giggles just trigger to fire :)

I can't be the only one that would love this kind of simplicity ...

I will take a look at that video though so thanks..
 
SimonRigga said:
Thanks i'll take a look, but that's already 3 buttons to fire a single weapon? and i'm guessing simlar for the other types of weapons?

Whatever happend to a single button to swap between weapon types, (including changing radar modes or whatever else is required!) wait for the nice tone... then trigger to fire.. or if I feel like wasting missles for the giggles just trigger to fire :)

I can't be the only one that would love this kind of simplicity ...

I will take a look at that video though so thanks..
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Their should be two buttons one for the missles (Weapon Release) and then one for guns. This might be heplful not sure if the missions are bug free was thier has been many updates snice. : https://dcs.alexstoll.com/F-15C/
 
taking a look at that video now, and he's going through the very numerous button mappings, and obv my HOTAS does not have the amount of buttons his does.. so i really need to decide whats the more important buttons, which he's not explaining. i.e. is radar zoom important?!?! i.e. map that over something else.. that i'm not going to be able to map..

and this is what I mean by.. it really isn't anything like an "entry" flight sim.. in any way shape or form.. and I know it's not supposed to be.. but think how much more dlc thay'd sell if they had a "simple mode" ..
 
There really is no "simple" in DCS, if you expect to jump in and shoot stuff it doesn't work like that. Before even thinking about weapons you need to be comfortable with stuff like, take off, stable flight, manouvering, basic navigation and landing.
Once you're ok with the above, then try using the guns on ground targets as you now should be able to take off, get to a target now learn to operate the guns, from that you can work out what buttons you need on hand and what buttons you can use from the keyboard or button box.
Ok... happy with that, the find an air target(not shoot it, just find it and lock it), again same as above, navigate to target, and work out how to operate the radar, what buttons you need etc. Rince, repeat, little steps
 
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SimonRigga said:
But I really can't find the "one key to shoot guns" and "one key to shoot missiles" stuff, in fact I don't think ive ever even managed to shoot anything from the plane (i.e. actually see a bullet or missles leave my plane, let alone actually hit anything!) and yes I have it fully loaded with missles etc..

It would be nice to be able to actually press the trigger and shoot, which is the bit i'm quite probably missing! :)
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As I said, in the simple Flaming Cliffs planes with radars (F-15C, F-5, Su-27, Mig-29) you have two combat modes - short range vertical scan, and long range BVR (beyond visual range). Bind a button for each of these to switch between them. You use your gun in the short range mode and it will shoot with your radar on or off (radar on will give accurate sighting for the gun).

To shoot missiles, you press "lock target" in either short range or long range modes, use the change weapon button to cycle different missiles if you have them, and -when in range- press shoot and the missile will go towards the target. In long range mode you also need to select a target on the radar screen with your cursor (bind that also).
 
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But yeah, bottom line DCS Flaming Cliffs is a gentle an intro into this stuff :) As long as you have an overall idea of how things work (radar is like a flashlight, you need to move it to see stuff ahead of you; you should lock the target before firing a missile; there are three modes - navigation, close range, beyond visual range; IR missiles work at short range; radar missiles are for long range shots; flares spoof IR missiles, chaff spoofs radar...) then you bind the controls and you can straight away fly and fight in 8 planes or however many there are in DCS Flaming Cliffs.
 
Thought I might also post this here as primarily its for use in DCS and for wider audience. Looking for some flight sim hardware advice.

Flight Sim Rudder Pedals (DCS) + Collective question.

Quite surpised there isnt an all encompassing Flight Sim equipment thread for less important recommendation questions. That said I'm looking for a bit of advice. I'm looking for a decent Rudder pedal set with toe brakes. I've recently got bit by the DCS bug AGAIN. I used to have a TM Warthog...
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk

Slap me on the wrist and tell me i'm a bad boy if I shouldnt be cross linking threads in the forum.;):cry:
 
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What's peoples thoughts on the new Iraq map that has gone on pre-order?
Personally I think it's a good looking map, but I feel like there is too much other stuff going with ED to put more money in.

Also, the new tech they are touting seems to be able to generate the base line information for maps relatively quickly, and yet I don't think any map since Syria has matched up to the quality of the Syria map.
 
Until we get to use it, I’m holding off on opinions. I like the Afghanistan map, so if it’s more of the same, that’s OK.

One concern I’ve read is about using those dev resources elsewhere, which is a valid concern.
Having said that, it’s worth remembering that the commercial version of DCS, used to be called The Battle Sim, and that had both Afghanistan and Iraq in its roster.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the maps were previously under contract to not be released to the public, and that this restriction has been lifted. If so, the “heavy lifting” was probably already in place, and it would make sense to sell it commercially.

Just my guess.
 
Yes, I think it's the dev resources that is frustrating for me.
Although I'm not desperate for a Dynamic Campaign, I'm really wanting the fidelity of the game AI (wingmen, ground units routing and targetting etc) to be taken up a level before I throw more cash in.
 
Littlenose said:
What's peoples thoughts on the new Iraq map that has gone on pre-order?
Personally I think it's a good looking map, but I feel like there is too much other stuff going with ED to put more money in.

Also, the new tech they are touting seems to be able to generate the base line information for maps relatively quickly, and yet I don't think any map since Syria has matched up to the quality of the Syria map.
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No interested as its an ED product I wish they focus on the simulation, rather than making more maps modules and taking years to finish them. Also the Persian gulf map felt like a unfinished , they didn't even bother with Qatar, Bahrain, Iran was left very bare. I will stick with Syria and wait or Orbx to update their kola map and maybe purchase that.

ED seem to just milk money from early access users.
 
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I really hope ED can pull through this tricky time they're going through... Although I don't mind them taking on some modules, I do think that they are taking on too many at once, not only does it makes it look like they're desperate for cash flow, but like you say, it seems to come at the detriment of the core simulation.
There's no other sim out there that gives me the same sense of flying as DCS while in VR, and to boot the helo's are a riot.
 
Brun said:
I'm not buying anything until the Eurofighter. If I start saving £1/month now I'll probably have enough before it arrives.
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I'm excited for the Eurofighter, Its a long wait though. I'd be keen to pick up a proper full fidelity Tornado as well when someone gets round to it.

I think I'm happy with the maps I have so far, Afghanistan, Persian Gulf, Syria and the NTTR. Getting kinda burnt out on desert... I'd be keen on the South Atlantic map but only on a sale. I'd like to see a Baltics map (Sweden, S Finland, in to St Petersberg, Estonia and Latvia) I'd be asking a lot but it would be pretty cool.

Just finished my DCS rig at the weekend. I got so used to flying without rudder pedals that it feels so foreign to me, struggling a little with it at the moment. Not had a lot of time to use it this week so far, Looking forward to the weekend to get some time in the seat. I also have the F16 Throttle setup but I'm using the F18 more at the moment so makes more sense to run the F18 Throttle. The F18 MFD setup will be the next big buy. That will require quite a large reconfiguration of the rig. That'll be an upgrade for next year though.
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