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Yeah try hards ruin the game for everyone, especially the ones who think they're better than they actually are. The funniest part is when they think they're right, and won't accept when no one else agrees with them, so they go off having an autistic bitch fit, and delete everyone off of their steam friends list, even if they weren't involved.

Some people really need to get a life / girlfriend if they get so upset over a game. But dota is serious business, right Myshra?
 
Few things in Dota 2 I learnt pass few weeks.If you know anything new/old plz share.

OD' astral imprisonment has an indicator, an orange circle which expands out and reaches the edge of the animation when the duration runs out.

Dazzle's shallow grave has a similar feature, the ring of light that moves down slowly also reaches the bottom at the end of the duration.

Pounce(Slark) won't latch illusions, making it useful for identifying the real CK/PL/Waifu Siren.

Charge can break Linken's(Spirit Breaker) from across the map.

Things newer players may not know about

A-clicking while under turret aggro forces it to recalculate who it should be hitting. If you're tanking the tower and then creeps move up closer to it, a-clicking any unit will force the tower to rethink its life and attack the creeps from that point.

Double clicking abilities/items that are self-castable (ie. DarkSeer's Surge, Lich's Ice Armor, OgreMagi's Bloodlust, blink dagger will blink you towards base,tp,ect) will auto cast the ability on yourself.

Manta dispels Track(Bounty Hunter). Diffusal can purge Track. Slark's Dark Pact can purge Track.
 
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To add to that, Manta dispels silence most importantly of all as well as quite a few other debuffs.

Slark's darkpact pretty much dispells anything including stuns if you time it well enough so it activates after you have been stunned. Use it wisely though as it does cost health.
 
Yeah try hards ruin the game for everyone, especially the ones who think they're better than they actually are. The funniest part is when they think they're right, and won't accept when no one else agrees with them, so they go off having an autistic bitch fit, and delete everyone off of their steam friends list, even if they weren't involved.

Some people really need to get a life / girlfriend if they get so upset over a game. But dota is serious business, right Myshra?

Well considering you really want to bring the drama to the forums from your last posts maybe it should be explained. For those that were not there to see it, Aedus is referring to last night where he played wisp in a 5 man AP, never warded despite several reminders and then never ganked at 6. At this point they then pushed hard with their earlygame advantage (our team needed more space to be effective) and I admit I raised my voice and called him a bad player because in every game when he's been on my team as support he has done the same thing. Ultimately we can assume he is either incapable at learning from his mistakes or just doesn't ward to grief us but either way, the result is the same.

Aedus got unhappy at this and then because he is wisp ported me to the enemy pool (except for the time he made a hash of it and I ran out - gotta get better at griefing as well as supporting I guess).

I then called him a chump for being passive aggressive because his only way of return to my comments was his attempts to try and kill me (although I'm sure he would claim the same of me by calling him out for his bad play) and a while knight came to his defence and said how much he had improved etc... and asked that I leave - so I did.

I don't think I'll ever really want to play with you again so I just deleted the OCUK group I had, it only had about 5 people in it. I don't personally think this is an "austic bitch fit" but as you're frothing at the mouth over it I guess it must have meant more to you (but I don't think you were even on my friends list anyway....). While I thank you for the slightly stalkerish comments I think I'll be OK administering my own friends list.

I think the best bit of your comment though is that it shows your total lack of understanding for the game and inability to learn it. Vision is the key to dota yet you can't manage to understand this basic requirement, forsaking it for an item in this game, which you had no chance of getting. You rage against tryharding, the good old timely defensive play whenever someone else calls you out. You think I'm tryharding because I called you out on warding? Why did you even pick support? You also claim i'm not very good which you're entitled to but I know I play in v high for solo/groups unless I'm queuing with lower tier friends so I must be doing something right and dotabuff says I'm within top 5% so I can be fairly confident I am - if you have something to show I'm not, show it.

No one disagreed with my remarks about lack of warding, they were unhappy in the way I exercised the point. You didn't need to bring this to the forums, the matter existed between us and not others. I am sorry you are so bitter about me deleting people from my own friends list but as I'm not likely to play with you again it just seemed easier. You can still stalk me on dotabuff if you'd like I guess.

It works well having 4 of you, as you can bully the 5th to shut up if he carries on.. as it only takes 3 reports for it to work.
Only 1 report works if you're grouped and do multiple reports - this has been in since the May update to the reporting system.
Things newer players may not know about
Double click self cast is a toggle option in settings.
ideally you should never double click bink dagger as it will not move 1200 units home, it will only move 960. Same applies if you try to blink further away than 1200 (you'll move upto 960 and then blink)
 
you can also use Diffusal blade if you are Riki or PL to purge dust.

Also time lapse if you play weaver removes dust.

Double clicking abilities/items that are self-castable (ie. DarkSeer's Surge, Lich's Ice Armor, OgreMagi's Bloodlust, blink dagger will blink you towards base,tp,ect) will auto cast the ability on yourself.

Also useful on natures prophet, if you see people coming to gank you, just doubletap W to tp back to base, instead of clicking minimap.
 
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Yeah try hards ruin the game for everyone, especially the ones who think they're better than they actually are. The funniest part is when they think they're right, and won't accept when no one else agrees with them, so they go off having an autistic bitch fit, and delete everyone off of their steam friends list, even if they weren't involved.

Some people really need to get a life / girlfriend if they get so upset over a game. But dota is serious business, right Myshra?

It's people like you that ruin Dota, tryhards who believe they are the best when they clearly are not and fail to learn from basic mistakes.
 
You know what you're saying there Jolteh is entirely true.

I play with 3 other people most of the time, so thats 4 of us.. as its 5v5.. we ALWAYS and I mean.. ALWAYS get that tryhard random knob trying to direct the entire team when we're already on comms and know what the plan is.

The funniest are the ones that die a lot and still think they're amazing, you'd think they'd have the sense to back off more if the team isn't doing what they expect.

It works well having 4 of you, as you can bully the 5th to shut up if he carries on.. as it only takes 3 reports for it to work. The worst is the ones that ping the map a million times.. as you can't mute that for some reason.

As I mid lane 9/10 games, my bane is people who pick a mid laner after I've picked mine and called mid.. and then they fight with you in the middle. First come first served, if I'm beaten to the pick I'll move but when I let others pick mid it never works well for the team as we're on comms and I usually play the initiator.. we really need a perma 5th member..

If anyone fancies a competitive game, I'm sure I could get the lads to join in a captains mode if someone wants to put a team together

Of course the reason you have problems could also be your own attitudes as a stack towards the randoms in your team. You're playing pub dota whether you're on voice comms or not.
 
On the report front: Good to know, but its effective as a verbal deterrent regardless. As theres no indicator of which party people are in?

I think the most frustrating thing I've had happen to me is one of these delightful types sell all my stuff off the courer and my reports had already been used up that week, I think this was last week actually perhaps the week before.

He kept raging at everyone to heal him, to follow him.. the usual and didn't like being told off like a school boy.

Luckily we were on their ancient when he sold the stuff and it was a stomp for us. So you get them win or lose.
 
Of course the reason you have problems could also be your own attitudes as a stack towards the randoms in your team. You're playing pub dota whether you're on voice comms or not.

Yeah it must be our attitudes every single game, when we don't say anything at all to the abuse we get because johnny tryhard pushed, over extended and died while his support had no mana.. its never the players fault who died, good comment. :rolleyes:
 
I think the most frustrating thing I've had happen to me is one of these delightful types sell all my stuff off the courer and my reports had already been used up that week, I think this was last week actually perhaps the week before..

Can only sell if you dc or abandon. So the question is, why were you dc'd?:P He may have just dropped them, you can always pick them back up then.
 
Yeah it must be our attitudes every single game, when we don't say anything at all to the abuse we get because johnny tryhard pushed, over extended and died while his support had no mana.. its never the players fault who died, good comment. :rolleyes:

Firstly you're bashing people for dieing in a stupid way. Get better and you'll get matched with better players.

It's obvious your attitude stinks if you're going around threatening to report people as a stack if they don't do what you want them to. Why should they?
 
Well considering you really want to bring the drama to the forums from your last posts maybe it should be explained. For those that were not there to see it, Aedus is referring to last night where he played wisp in a 5 man AP, never warded despite several reminders and then never ganked at 6. At this point they then pushed hard with their earlygame advantage (our team needed more space to be effective) and I admit I raised my voice and called him a bad player because in every game when he's been on my team as support he has done the same thing. Ultimately we can assume he is either incapable at learning from his mistakes or just doesn't ward to grief us but either way, the result is the same.

Aedus got unhappy at this and then because he is wisp ported me to the enemy pool (except for the time he made a hash of it and I ran out - gotta get better at griefing as well as supporting I guess).

I then called him a chump for being passive aggressive because his only way of return to my comments was his attempts to try and kill me (although I'm sure he would claim the same of me by calling him out for his bad play) and a while knight came to his defence and said how much he had improved etc... and asked that I leave - so I did.

I don't think I'll ever really want to play with you again so I just deleted the OCUK group I had, it only had about 5 people in it. I don't personally think this is an "austic bitch fit" but as you're frothing at the mouth over it I guess it must have meant more to you (but I don't think you were even on my friends list anyway....). While I thank you for the slightly stalkerish comments I think I'll be OK administering my own friends list.

I think the best bit of your comment though is that it shows your total lack of understanding for the game and inability to learn it. Vision is the key to dota yet you can't manage to understand this basic requirement, forsaking it for an item in this game, which you had no chance of getting. You rage against tryharding, the good old timely defensive play whenever someone else calls you out. You think I'm tryharding because I called you out on warding? Why did you even pick support? You also claim i'm not very good which you're entitled to but I know I play in v high for solo/groups unless I'm queuing with lower tier friends so I must be doing something right and dotabuff says I'm within top 5% so I can be fairly confident I am - if you have something to show I'm not, show it.

No one disagreed with my remarks about lack of warding, they were unhappy in the way I exercised the point. You didn't need to bring this to the forums, the matter existed between us and not others. I am sorry you are so bitter about me deleting people from my own friends list but as I'm not likely to play with you again it just seemed easier. You can still stalk me on dotabuff if you'd like I guess.


Only 1 report works if you're grouped and do multiple reports - this has been in since the May update to the reporting system.

Double click self cast is a toggle option in settings.
ideally you should never double click bink dagger as it will not move 1200 units home, it will only move 960. Same applies if you try to blink further away than 1200 (you'll move upto 960 and then blink)

In fact I was porting Pudge around to attempt ganks, which didn't go according to plan, but your whole point of not attempting ganking at 6 is wholey irrelevant. Same goes for wards, let me point out, no-one the entire game asked me to ward, and if they did, I didn’t hear them, I've played many games where all I've done, solely, is ward. I’m still unsure exactly what a team wants from me, but apparently since I was the only support, so I had the job not only of ganking, but of warding, a bit much of an ask for someone who has not even played 3 weeks? But keep going off on your tangent about me not knowing how important wards are, because it is really ridiculous. Many are witness to me warding and playing properly, more-so than the few times you’ve played with me since they play with me all the time but apparently you know best.

Let me point out, how it kicked off is, and I quote: “Go and buy some ****ing wards!”, I then said “Since you asked so nicely Myshra, how could I refuse?” in a sarcastic tone, he then flipped out, calling me a bad player as is in his post in a few more words, getting extremely angry like he couldn’t control his temper, over a game. What he doesn’t point out is no porting occurred until he flipped out and went on one of his famous rants, same as which he did when Calabi (Another new player) was playing Morphling in-house. By the way, he died 3 times from being ported, so there was no “attempts”, he was probably turning red in the face while trying to keep it cool on mic, calling me passive aggressive. I love how Myshra likes to think I was “Frothing at the mouth” when he was the one raging last night for about 20 minutes, and everyone on TeamSpeak was witness to this. I didn’t attack you verbally once, it was only when James told you to **** off did you receive anything back for your ranting.

You either have some form or autism, or you don’t know how to talk to people, because it’s not just me you’ve done this to. I’ve had enough of your ****, as others have. Let me point out when you leave the chat, people (Not naming any names) have something negative to say about you, whether it’s just the way you talk to people, or your attitude in general. Believe me, I’ll never want to play a game with you again, nor will many others, you think this is just between us, but you’re wrong, more people think you’re a ****ing idiot than they do me, I admit I’m a bad player, but at least I don’t have some attitude problem, I fully take the blame if something goes wrong and don’t palm it off on to someone else like you do, since you can’t ever accept doing anything wrong.

I don’t hate you, no matter how much abuse you hurl, or how autistic you are, but if you were to drop dead tomorrow, I wouldn’t care.

It's people like you that ruin Dota, tryhards who believe they are the best when they clearly are not and fail to learn from basic mistakes.

I don't even know who the hell you are. But I'm laughing at you calling me a tryhard. A noob tryhard, that's hilarious.
 
Same goes for wards, let me point out, no-one the entire game asked me to ward, and if they did, I didn’t hear them

tbf you shouldn't need to be asked, if you play a support you should always be warding, the wards should always be out of stock.
 
Didn't disconnect at all. I brought him up on it and he laughed and said "thats what you get for " No idea why he was able to sell it. - Checked the replay and its expired, would really like to know how he managed it. I'm assuming he can force the courier to just drop the item then pick it up and sell it?

Nrober I see you're the type to completely misread things. I said and I quote

"The funniest are the ones that die a lot and still think they're amazing, you'd think they'd have the sense to back off more if the team isn't doing what they expect."

Now, let me explain that to you.

That means, I'm talking about the raging tryhard who rage when you don't do what THEY want YOU to do and attempt to then feed or throw the game away. Then you ever so politely point out that if he carries on, he'll end up in low priority.

Not quite sure why you got on your high horse over that, slow day at work? Issues? Who knows but what ever floats your boat.
 
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Didn't disconnect at all. I brought him up on it and he laughed and said "thats what you get for . No idea why he was able to sell it. - Checked the replay and its expired, would really like to know how he managed it. I'm assuming he can force the courier to just drop the item then pick it up and sell it?

Nope, he probably just dropped it in the trees somewhere, unless you dc'd there is no way to sell things, and even then you can only sell the bottle/salve/clarity etc I think. Abandoned you can sell all items. But if you are still in the game he can only drop them off the courier, not sell.
 
tbf you shouldn't need to be asked, if you play a support you should always be warding, the wards should always be out of stock.

I must be missing where one of the 4 others couldn't go support to help out. I'm still noob, getting used to the game, iI thought with wisp my first priority was to get items to help carry survive and gank with him, that's obviously my mistake, but no one told me any different.
 
I must be missing where one of the 4 others couldn't go support to help out. I'm still noob, getting used to the game, iI thought with wisp my first priority was to get items to help carry survive and gank with him, that's obviously my mistake, but no one told me any different.

Nor did you ask, right? If you want to get better, the best way to do it is to talk to the more experienced players and build a plan as you go rather than blame them for not telling you to do something differently.

Please don't take this the wrong way, I don't know you, nor you me, but I'd be frustrated too if someone who'd been warding one game stopped doing it another.
 
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