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Indeed it's all relative, also the spread of people in each bracket depends, I once had an invo who played just like a pro, we started calling him dendi, he was amazing, he had amazing map awareness, he saw absolutely everything, any person low on health any corner of the map WHILE absolutely destroying mid, his sunstrike was there to catch and he landed ALL of them, his prediction was something out of this world, he would predict our stuns where they land and how enemy hero end up like you saw 5secodns into the future, his build, map reaction, positioning all was absolutely excellent, out of 1500 games I had I'd say he was the best player I have come across and he was, wait for it, in ~3k mmr. Explain that to me >_>

I was queued with Anuraj, sorry.
 
I watch pro games, he played like dendi

In the context of pro games he played very well.

I'm sure if I played out of my mind on Invoker in a 3k mmr game, I'd look amazing to you. In the context of an actual pro game I'm sure he played like ****. Mostly because pro dota is a total different game to ranked mmr dota.
 
I'm sure if I played out of my mind on Invoker in a 3k mmr game, I'd look amazing to you. In the context of an actual pro game I'm sure he played like ****. Mostly because pro dota is a total different game to ranked mmr dota.

Once again I watch pro games, in the context of a pro game, he played just like pros play.
 
Once again I watch pro games, in the context of a pro game, he played just like pros play.

But you can't play like a pro in a 3k mmr game. They are totally different games. Just because you watch pro games it doesn't mean you understand what is going on.
 
I watch pro games, he played like dendi

in ~3k mmr.


You said someone that plays like Dendi is at 3k mmr which is complete and utter bs and sounds like you are saying he is amazing and playing at that level because mmr doesn't work properly so you can feel better about your mmr which you apparently tanked on purpose after people insult you in dota which is kinda hilarious but not only that you are now complaining about your mmr after you did that because you cannot get it back up higher.


I'm 4k mmr, I'm better than Dendi now ez.
 
But you can't play like a pro in a 3k mmr game. They are totally different games. Just because you watch pro games it doesn't mean you understand what is going on.

One can have general understanding of the game, timing, positioning, map awareness. I am not talking about getting tons of kills because enemy team overextended, that's not playing well. I am telling you that every decision he made was optimal, every move he made was just like a pro would react and do react in games.
 
One can have general understanding of the game, timing, positioning, map awareness. I am not talking about getting tons of kills because enemy team overextended, that's not playing well. I am telling you that every decision he made was optimal, every move he made was just like a pro would react and do react in games.

But you don't get it. You don't have to be a pro to play well in a 3k game. Everything you listed, timing, positioning & map awareness is totally totally different in pro games so it doesn't apply.

Just because you hit sunstrikes and can cast tornado combos in a 3k game where people stand on top of each other doesn't mean you wouldn't "get rekd" in an actual game.
 
And just a note, although the MMR system is flawed it is still a relatively good indicator of skill level when n is large. With 1500 games played its safe to say you're at or around your true level.
 
You said someone that plays like Dendi is at 3k mmr which is complete and utter bs and sounds like you are saying he is amazing and playing at that level because mmr doesn't work properly so you can feel better about your mmr which you apparently tanked on purpose after people insult you in dota which is kinda hilarious but not only that you are now complaining about your mmr after you did that because you cannot get it back up higher.


I'm 4k mmr, I'm better than Dendi now ez.

Quite a lip on you, parents never taught you manners? I already mentioned that being stuck in mmr is not possible given people experiments with mmr. So there must be something I am doing right but given that I watch pro games and constantly perform amongst top 2 in my teams I can not see what I am doing wrong, as not showing any improvements after all that and 1500 is fairly impossible.

I then mention a player who played so amazing that it would be comparable to a pro level of play in 3k bracket. I am not saying dendi is playing 3k, I am saying it is very odd to see such an amazing player who at least should be in 4k to play at 3k.

Lastly you do not have 4k, you are around 3500 and you are there because you team up with people who play far better than you and drag you up. So perhaps stop showing attitude and keep quiet like a good boy you are.
 
I actually have 3.9k mmr and thats solo rating and I team up with people who are worse than me so erm. I think you might be a little bit wrong.

Everyone has a peak of skill, you might have just reached yours. 3k mmr isn't too bad, you could be Russian.
 
But you don't get it. You don't have to be a pro to play well in a 3k game. Everything you listed, timing, positioning & map awareness is totally totally different in pro games so it doesn't apply.

Just because you hit sunstrikes and can cast tornado combos in a 3k game where people stand on top of each other doesn't mean you wouldn't "get rekd" in an actual game.

And you assume I would be impressed by that combo on bad players, once again I do not think it's impressive play to snowball when playing against a bad team. Perhaps he got a new account and this game was his calibration, perhaps he decided to experiment and tank his score to be paired up with me. There are other options of what could have happened rather than just label me is a lowbie who is impressed by fairly average play.
 
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