*** Official Elder Scrolls MMO Thread ***

Zethor said:
I often come across this myth. Apparently, MMO's are from another dimension and they shouldn't be judged during the first 5, 10, 20, X hours, like all other forms of entertainment; it's only after you've invested a period of time in them that they should be judged. Ridiculous.

There's a reason why there's a lot of focus on negative points - they can't be ignored and they often outweigh the positive points.
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lol rubbish. How many times have you watched a movie that was slow at the start but finished up really good. Or watched a soccer game that was 0-0 at half time but finished as 4-3 and be called a brilliant game of soccer, even though the first half was crap. The opposite can happen too, start brilliantly but bad finish.

MMO's are one of the few things that take a long time to get a proper opinion of. If you only play an MMO for an few hours you probably haven't even scratched the surface of what's available.
 
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I get back from holiday and the bickering is still going on? :rolleyes:
Newbie if you don't play the game why do you insist on filling this thread with the same info over and over again?

We get it, the game has faults...Hell we all play it and know that. And we understand you don't have high hopes for it. I've been through enough rough mmo launches to know that this has been a much better experience for me.

This constant back and forth makes it a lot harder for those of us that don't entrench ourselves in the thread to keep up to date. People posting issues and bugs and criticisms when they are playing it is perfectly fine but when you don't even own the game and continue to rehash the same points it gets a tad tiresome. It's neither constructive or helpful.
 
Newbie007 said:
Im not playing, its one of the few AAA mmo titles I havent picked up at launch. Out of curisoty have you played many MMO's at launch?
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Quite a few, Legend of Mir, DAoC, WoW (not right at launch but still fairly early), Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, SWTOR.. Probably more that I've forgotten.

Newbie007 said:
Its a ES game, the series is beloved by a lot of people. Gamers also like to whinge :p
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Yeah, using the ES name and lore is a bit of a double edged sword really. On the one hand, it's great that all this fantastic and deep lore is available, but they've set rather high expectations for RPG experiences in the past. I still don't think it's reasonable to expect that level of polish and immersion in an MMO but can see why people would've expected it.
 
zenf said:
It's the same as anything, you can't judge it as a whole unless you've experienced the whole thing. If you start watching a film, decide it's crap after 10 minutes and turn it off, you can say the first 10 minutes were crap but you can't say that about the entire film because you don't know. Or you could order some food in a restaurant and only try one small part of the meal, you could say the part that you tried was bad but you can't say that about the parts you haven't even tried because again, you just don't know.
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On that note, maybe you can provide examples of games with generic gameplay during the first, say, 20 hours, only to realise they are masterpieces afterwards. Judging by what I've personally seen in MMOs, starting with the likes of Ultima/Runescape and going as recent as SWTOR, Guildwards 2 and ESO, I didn't need more than 5 hours to know if liked or disliked the game - an impression that endured later on.

I believe that you and other fans are wrong to assume some people don't like the game because they didn't invest enough time in it. It is far more likely that these people simply did not like the game regardless of the time invested.

That depends on your priorities I suppose but in my experience, all the negativity towards this game seems way out of proportion and mostly comes from people who didn't even buy the game, which makes it quite weird how they go out of their way to bash it.
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As I said earlier, the aggregate scores and user opinions should not be dismissed as they have statistical value - while many people have not played the game, most of those that wrote a review or an opinion, have. The fact that these opinions are statistically worse than those of GW2 and even SWTOR suggests a game of mediocre quality.
 
I've never played an MMO before and have come from Skyrim. Have to say really enjoying it and will probably sub for at least a month.

Guess I'm the type of inexperienced buffoon they were aiming at. :p
 
everygame will polarise the community, some will love it some will hate it, thats the great thing about gaming theres something for everyone.

Ive played wow so long that i find it extremely hard to adapt to a new mmo, for me wow has pretty much everything right in terms of what i want from an MMO, but make no mistake it took wow 10 years as market leader to get to its current position.

I think for that reason a lot of new MMO's are initially hit with a wall of flame simply because the community is completely dismissive of any new MMO due to the success of WOW.

ESO isnt for me but i dont for one second think its a bad game, just not something that would make me stop playing wow. (even tho im currently on a wow break till the expansion, im still subbed to it)

If people enjoy it more power to them as far as im concerned, even tho im not interested i still keep an eye on news about the game and posts in this thread because as a gamer i like reading others opinions, either positive or negative.
 
Zethor said:
On that note, maybe you can provide examples of games with generic gameplay during the first, say, 20 hours, only to realise they are masterpieces afterwards. Judging by what I've personally seen in MMOs, starting with the likes of Ultima/Runescape and going as recent as SWTOR, Guildwards 2 and ESO, I didn't need more than 5 hours to know if liked or disliked the game - an impression that endured later on.

I believe that you and other fans are wrong to assume some people don't like the game because they didn't invest enough time in it. It is far more likely that these people simply did not like the game regardless of the time invested.
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I don't think I actually said that people don't like the game because they haven't invested enough time in it, just that it's weird that on these forums, most of the criticisms are coming from those who didn't even buy it.

Particularly with an MMO when there's such a huge amount of content, you can't judge all of it when you've only sampled a portion. If you try 5 quests and find them completely boring, it's pretty presumptious to state that all of the quests in the game are boring. On the flipside, if you really don't like the core gameplay (combat mechanics etc) then you don't need to experience the entire game to judge it. It depends on the criticism being made.

I never really enjoyed questing in WoW but loved raiding and PvP, it would've been a shame if I'd never experienced those aspects of the game because I was put off after the first 10/20 hours.

Zethor said:
As I said earlier, the aggregate scores and user opinions should not be dismissed as they have statistical value - while many people have not played the game, most of those that wrote a review or an opinion, have. The fact that these opinions are statistically worse than those of GW2 and even SWTOR suggests a game of mediocre quality.
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I never said those statistics should be dismissed, my comments about the criticisms being made towards the game were just about people in this thread, I don't see why they have such an interest in the game if they don't even like it.

I tried Wildstar last weekend, didn't really get on with it but didn't feel the need to go into the Wildstar thread subtlely insulting those who like it. Not saying you've been doing that but some of the trolling going on in here is laughable.
 
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It appears hackers have appeared, I keep being logged off with a message (error 304 another login attempt has been made on your account)

Ive quickly changed my password just incase, but it still keeps happening :(

have emailed Zenimax, so hopefully something happens.
 
Vtec9k said:
Are you in TOG maun?

We had a guildie login briefly spam garbage then logoff, not sure if he was either drunk or hacked!
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No mate im not.

Having looked around the ESO forums, it appears my issue is also affecting a lot of other people, seems to be a major problem tonight.....
 
I've just read someones excuse on why this game is terrible. They said it's a terrible game because you don't get all the good loot and lots of money right away. They then continued saying they got some good loot and 5k gold in the first hour of Skyrim which in turn meant ESO is terrible.

I laughed. I doubt they even played the game.
 
dan958 said:
I've just read someones excuse on why this game is terrible. They said it's a terrible game because you don't get all the good loot and lots of money right away. They then continued saying they got some good loot and 5k gold in the first hour of Skyrim which in turn meant ESO is terrible.

I laughed. I doubt they even played the game.
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You get that a lot with these AAA releases, they aim to attract that sort of player who probably hasn't played an MMO before or at best has dabbled with WoW but comes for the franchise, they generally don't hang around long.
 
Anyone else feeling like this is getting old real fast in relation to the non stop trolling in this thread?!

I come in here to read the experience of fellow players in a game I enjoy playing,getting tips,help and general chatting about the new game im excited about with other people with the same mindset hence why there is a thread for it,instead I'm welcomed by constant bad mouthing about something or the other about the game mostly by people who don't even own the game! Seriously just leave it alone you don't like it we get it just move on already Jesus,I don't get your crusade against this game and the mindless sheep that seem to be following the same trend reading peoples mis informed hatred for this game and then spreading it further.

We have listened to your constant mis informed opinions or general dislike of what u have/havent played,whilst more than likely turning potential players away in the process,now just give it a rest and let the players who are enjoying the game talk about it in a topic made for it so we can at least have some enjoyment on this forum regarding a game we like.

If I don't like a game I feel no need to waste my time and others and derailing a thread that others have created to talk about a game they like and share there experiences with others I respect that and move on, you have shared your views plenty enough and we know your stance on it now your just simply destroying this thread for others so please move on,I would love to start a new topic on this game but you will simply just come in and ruin that also.

This topic hasn't become a conversation about ESO it has become a topic where mostly people who play the game are having to defend/justify why they play it and are constantly setting people straight about the false accusations they aim at the game by people who mostly don't even play it and know very little about the game itself,its just truly tiresome now,we have lost people coming into this thread some being big fans and players of this game due to this,and tbh I think its time the mods got involved within this thread.
 
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