*** Official Elder Scrolls MMO Thread ***

LateX'Dog said:
Would have been interesting if you had the same opinion if it was F2P, but i'm guessing it would have been amazing if that was the case right?
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No tbh even if it was F2P I wouldn't play it. There are far better F2P games there and if I want elder scrolls gameplay I will simply go back to Skyrim which is a far better game.

Don't mistake me for being hater because I dislike Elder Scrolls or Bethesda. I simply believe this game is too poor to be worth spending a monthly sub on. Even then as I said there are better F2P games out than if ESO was.

Im gravely disappointed by the game and im pretty sure many more will be also.

This is of course all my own opinion and it won't match everyone elses. Feel free to try it out but I personally wouldn't recommend it.
 
LateX'Dog said:
If i'm right Emjay86, you haven't actually told us why its poor?
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Check back the last page dude I wrote a brief summary of its 'issues'. :)

Hope it helps!

But again by all means feel free to try it out yourself when you can. Its my opinion and that isn't the final say on anything by all means (something my other half always reminds me!)
 

What's the point of the NDA if screenshots are appearing, twitch streams and now youtube videos. Utterly pointless, they shut em down and another ten pop up
 
Emjay86 said:
It basically feels like a cheapened version of Skyrim. It lacks the immersion in a huge way, the animations (albeit probably in development) are clunky and poor and the general moving around and combat is sluggish and feels pretty crap.
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So as you've admit they are probably still in development. So thats 1 issues resolve already.

It tries to emulate the playstyle of Skyrim but falls flat and whilst playing the game it feels like something is missing. The voiceovers for npc's are also pretty poor with some of the npc's having voices that just don't seem to fit. Im told they are placeholders but then why the hell would they record voice acting work twice for the sake of a beta?
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Ok so your complaining about place holder voice overs, which SWTOR had in beta and where replaced on release. You also say something is missing but don't actually say what?

Crafting looks somewhat interesting but overly uninspired and potentially half baked.
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Ok, crafting isn't for everyone. I personally think the crafting is going to get more complex the more you progress. Different grade quality of gems to make the different race weapons, trait skills, secret hidden forges around the world to craft at with there own unique buffs to items.

My main gripe however is how they have made an Elder Scrolls game which essentially is a 'do what you want' kind of game and then forced you into factions based on your race and then classes. Sure you can go a dragonknight with a staff but it simply wouldn't work, essentially making you pick the obvious.
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I would say this is true, but its a MMO, people want classes. It helps them decide, it helps them pick a progression route.

Opening mission is a load of crap too. Its uninteresting and doesn't explain anything. I presume the game will launch with an opening trailer to explain this as it doesn't make much sense at the moment.
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There is a short text video that explains everything to do with the opening mission. As an introduction to controls and combat i think it does it very well.

General NPC interaction is pretty poor also. I like how they have taken the effort to put voices on everyone but again it feels odd. Everytime you talk to an NPC it puts you into a cinematic mode almost during the conversation. This can apply for the NPC's who literally have naff all interesting to say.
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So just like SWTOR and GW2 to some degree, AoC also? So the failing isn't the game, its the idea.

There are no markers over NPC's or indeed players. As you play you just see people which is great for immersion reasons but all I see in zone chat currently is people complaining about not knowing where the quest givers are.
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Its new, what do you expect? ESOhead.com with all the quests listed?
 
Uninstalled...please don't hate me Latex !! :p !!

I'll stick to playing Rift, Aion, Tera, Lotro, SWToR and GW2(okay it costs £20 but mine was free).

I used to think Sub was best until I found out it wasn't.
 
So I've completed the starting island for all 3 factions so far and all I can say is give Aldermi Dominion a veeerry wide birth -- the questing is beyond boring, it's an endless back and forth between different buildings to talk to people and next to no killing of anything... both the Ebonheart Pact and Daggerfall Dominion are fine in that regard.

Of the classes I've tried I found the Sorcerer to just be all round boring, the spells seemed uninteresting and quite weak. The Nightblade I played solo with a bow and was quite fun, basically one shot most things you attack from stealth with powerful follow up abilities. The third character I tried was a Templar which I played with a couple of friends and spec'd as a pure healer - this was surprisingly fun, if not the most fun of the classes I've tried - you also get quite a lot of XP from the smart healing latching onto other players and you then getting XP from what they're doing.

It's not a terrible game by any stretch of the imagination, but P2P games are making less and less sense these days and a game would have to be amazing to warrant the P2P model which this isn't... if it was B2P and polished up more I think I'd give it a go but right now it's looking like waiting 1-2 years for it to eventually go F2P and picking it up then.
 
eekfek said:
Uninstalled...please don't hate me Latex !! :p !!

I'll stick to playing Rift, Aion, Tera, Lotro, SWToR and GW2(okay it costs £20 but mine was free).

I used to think Sub was best until I found out it wasn't.
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Heh i don't hate you.

But please point me to a F2P game thats better at launch? That wasn't previously a sub game.
 
LateX'Dog said:
Heh i don't hate you.

But please point me to a F2P game thats better at launch? That wasn't previously a sub game.
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good good, but surely it's not about whether they were sub or not on release?

Yes the one's I play started off with a sub but my first impressions proved favorable and because of the fundamental gameplay and style they all kept me entertained.

On release, if it proves a success and people who I know enjoy it maybe I'll consider it but for now it doesn't make my belly fizz ;)
 
eekfek said:
good good, but surely it's not about whether they were sub or not on release?

Yes the one's I play started off with a sub but my first impressions proved favorable and because of the fundamental gameplay and style they all kept me entertained.

On release, if it proves a success and people who I know enjoy it maybe I'll consider it but for now it doesn't make my belly fizz ;)
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You have to compare apples to apples and not to oranges.

If your comparing a F2P game at launch with a P2P game at launch, its an unfair comparison to both of the games.

To be objective, you need to compare P2P with P2P at launch.

Personally i'd argue possibly Rift was better at launch and that was P2P.

If you think the game is rubbish, at least explain WHY, don't just brandish it as a pile of crap and spread that as fact. Sorry not speaking of you personally.

As a £30 investment for a month of entertainment i think its very worth the money. Now is it worth a sub fee, personally no at this point in time.
 
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LateX'Dog said:
Why do i not have you on ignore yet. You really only ever post complete rubbish. :rolleyes:
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Right back at you, Fun is subjective for a start.

as to why its **** - animations aren't very good, the questing is dull, the PvP very bland & the whole game feels very 2005.

Edit - what does ESO bring to the table that's new? For a AAA title and the rumored amount of cash sunk into it, its very very shoddy. At least Neverwinter had the Foundry
 
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