Is it really 50gb?
I signed up on thursday and inserted my key etc but just haven't downloaded the client yet, was going to download over night but if it's 50gb not sure I'll bother
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I signed up on thursday and inserted my key etc but just haven't downloaded the client yet, was going to download over night but if it's 50gb not sure I'll bother
Is it really 50gb?
I signed up on thursday and inserted my key etc but just haven't downloaded the client yet, was going to download over night but if it's 50gb not sure I'll bother
It's 30GB, but you need 50GB of free space so it can install. If you don't have 50GB it won't even start the 30GB download.
Also Latex seriously, why do you even care so much? Looking over your lasts 5 or so posts you're coming off as a raging fanboy having spent a grand total of half a day in the game. People can have their opinions and express them without having to give you or anyone else a reason why.
Soldato
So, I gave this a go last night, and uninstalled it this morning.. and lets see if I can coherently explain why..
The starter zone. It handheld you through "get a weapon" "kill a baddie" "kill a ranged baddie" and so on. It didn't have the same kind of feel as skyrim, skyrim you were running for your life from a dragon attack, oblivion was a similar 'escape the prison' thing, but even then, it felt like you had purpose. But getting to tamriel, felt like a lot of faffing around with little purpose. Add to that, the swarm of other players, and it just felt.. uninspired.
So I reach Tamriel, and I start questing, go here, do that, kill those.. same old same old. The combat felt slow and disengaged. I found I didn't care too much about what was going on? oh you want me to raid this camp and kill the boss to loot the thing.. well how about I just walk in with the 50 other people doing this quest, get to where the boss would be if he hadn't just been killed by another group of people, and I'll loot the thing and walk out without a care in the world..
I know, its just a stress test, and in the game proper, people will spread out quickly to all corners of the world. But right now, everybody is doing the same things, and it doesn't feel to me like an adventure.. It's a grind, the same grind that the 30 people stood beside me are doing.. and honestly, I don't care either way.
Looks pretty, but.. its just another MMO and while I wish it good fortune, I'll not be staying.
It's a shame, I enjoyed skyrim, loved oblivion, played morrowind, but this.. does nothing for me.
The starter zone. It handheld you through "get a weapon" "kill a baddie" "kill a ranged baddie" and so on. It didn't have the same kind of feel as skyrim, skyrim you were running for your life from a dragon attack, oblivion was a similar 'escape the prison' thing, but even then, it felt like you had purpose. But getting to tamriel, felt like a lot of faffing around with little purpose. Add to that, the swarm of other players, and it just felt.. uninspired.
So I reach Tamriel, and I start questing, go here, do that, kill those.. same old same old. The combat felt slow and disengaged. I found I didn't care too much about what was going on? oh you want me to raid this camp and kill the boss to loot the thing.. well how about I just walk in with the 50 other people doing this quest, get to where the boss would be if he hadn't just been killed by another group of people, and I'll loot the thing and walk out without a care in the world..
I know, its just a stress test, and in the game proper, people will spread out quickly to all corners of the world. But right now, everybody is doing the same things, and it doesn't feel to me like an adventure.. It's a grind, the same grind that the 30 people stood beside me are doing.. and honestly, I don't care either way.
Looks pretty, but.. its just another MMO and while I wish it good fortune, I'll not be staying.
It's a shame, I enjoyed skyrim, loved oblivion, played morrowind, but this.. does nothing for me.
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Soldato
Biggest issue is team-play, keep getting pushed into seperate phases - can think of two MMOs which had this issue on release, I hope they fix this
Spend more time trying to play together than actually playing together.
I really want to write up about this game but NDA and all :|
Spend more time trying to play together than actually playing together.
I really want to write up about this game but NDA and all :|
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Sure it was only a 20gb download for me.
I never understand why people have this opinion.
Your argument for the product being poor is that its 'at launch' which is basically an excuse for nothing.
Its like Ford bringing out a new car with no wheels and someone saying 'But its launch! Give it a few months and they might add wheels, they will probably add doors too!'.
Probably an extreme example given but why the hell should you give a company who have apparently spent around $200 mil to make a game an excuse for it being sub-par?
At this stage in development SWTOR was FAR superior and we all know how that went.
I appreciate an MMO is an evolving project and it won't be 'the complete article' from the get go, I really understand that. But you have to accept that there are a lot of people saying 'meh' about ESO.
Either the OCUK forums and at least half the people in the beta weekend are all haters of all things Elder Scrolls or there is something not quite right with ESO.
I appreciate you have a fondness toward the game Latex but seriously stop trying to poke holes in an opinion that judging by this thread is shared by a many few people.
Even the people who have responded in this thread as testing it and have said they like it have said theres issues, and none of those are bugs. Its just a poor game for what it should be.
Again by all means try it yourself but you would be saving yourself money and heartache if you took peoples opinions here into considoration.
The fact that throughout the production of the game you could only get info on what races/factions were in the game too was a little worrying. They seem to have spent far too much time doing 'dev questions' which are completely unrelated to ANYTHING you want to know about with the game (they basically ask you unrelated questions rather than answering questions about the game) rather than looking at the MMO scene and working out what needs to be done.
For the money they have spent they would have been better off making a multiplayer expansion of Skyrim and eventually adding the other areas as they go.
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Biggest issue is team-play, keep getting pushed into seperate phases - can think of two MMOs which had this issue on release, I hope they fix this
Spend more time trying to play together than actually playing together.
I really want to write up about this game but NDA and all :|
Age of Conan had this sort of instancing but it had the advantage that you could change so that you can play with your friends. As it stands it looks like Bethesda didn't bother with that one. It could easily be implemented though at launch (or before!) so theres hope on that front
At least with Neverwinter it felt more complete and you didn't have to buy the box or pay a subscription either.
They both have one similarity however... boring classes.
Age of Conan had this sort of instancing but it had the advantage that you could change so that you can play with your friends. As it stands it looks like Bethesda didn't bother with that one. It could easily be implemented though at launch (or before!) so theres hope on that front
This is a lie, sure ESO has instancing but you can switch channels to be with your friends. No idea how as it was my mate who did it but we were invisible on each others screens with the party marker over our heads, and he did something and reappeared at the edge of the area and came back being in my instance.
Soldato
After playing it last night, all I can remember thinking was. "I'd rather be playing Skyrim." 
I also agree with the sentiment voiced earlier that the Elder Scrolls games are about doing your own thing, this on the other hand just railroads you right down the tiresome "WTF! Learn to play your class noob! OMFG!!1!" style of gameplay. Do we really need more of that?
As a result, I think ESO has missed its potential niche as a modern day Ultima Online. Instead, once things have calmed down, I think this will end up being viewed as yet another "Generic WoW Clone". If we think about it at all...
I also agree with the sentiment voiced earlier that the Elder Scrolls games are about doing your own thing, this on the other hand just railroads you right down the tiresome "WTF! Learn to play your class noob! OMFG!!1!" style of gameplay. Do we really need more of that?
As a result, I think ESO has missed its potential niche as a modern day Ultima Online. Instead, once things have calmed down, I think this will end up being viewed as yet another "Generic WoW Clone". If we think about it at all...
I care because people quickly dismiss games and brandish them as crap for no other reason then 'because'. It almost seems hipster to hate on new MMO's before either giving them a chance or because you joined the band wagon.
If a MMO is terrible, explain WHY! At least give people the opportunity to see if its your opinion or a mechanic that you do not understand or what ever. People use forums like these as a guide to game purchases, if they see 100 people say "this games crap", do you think that person will buy it? It could be simply that them 100 people don't understand something and they then have damaged the reputation of a game.
The MMO industry is extremely toxic, people get early access, judge the game upon beta and compare it against games 2-5 years in the market. But they can't see how flawed and broken this actually is. Because of that flawed logic, they then tell forums like these, reddit, friends and family about how bad the game is and it spreads like wildfire.
I'm not saying that if a game is truly terrible to encourage people to buy it, but in the case of MMO's give them more then 10mins before you tell the entire world how crap the game is because of no other reason then the animations are poor.
Emjay for example spent 4 hours in ESO, listed a load of reason why they didn't like it and hoped it helped people in not buying the game. Now please anyone tell me what MMO you can play and experience enough of the game in 4 hours? MMO's take hours upon hours of investment and its almost like people have completely forget this fact.
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That doesnt what?
gfx mean nothing in an MMO, its the animation that counts, and the animations in this game are sub par
Ahh, the old mythical patch that will fix everything excuse. There is no mythical patch, the game is releasing in 3 months (spring 2014 is what we;ve been told for the past year give or take), there will be no major overhaul of anything in the game.
Feel 2005.
It's beta though, I'll agree the animations are wacky but I can't imagine a company releasing them in the state they are in, they'll be place holders or I'll eat my hat.
Seems strange that a Zenimax/Bethesda employee would make so much effort to **** on a game.
I didn't say the game was a pile of crap nor did I state anything as fact.
I have no agenda to spread, I do have butter and margarine and probably some Philadelphia with chillies mmmmm.
The games I bought and paid a sub to all initially made me 'want' to play them (even during alpha/beta stages).
Mate, stop pushing it, your trying far to hard on a nothing matter.
A better analogy would be comparing it to the PS4, doesn't have 3D blu ray capacity at launch even though it was a feature.
I agree here, 200m is a ludicrous amount of money to spend, but considering SWTOR rumoured costs is £300m and this is £200m, sadly to try and compete in a worth while manor you need to spend big it seems.
Completely subjective with no evidence or facts. At least explain.
SWTOR on launch was great, don't get me wrong. Hell i bought the collectors edition!!
On here yes, in game people are mostly positive and on other forums too. So not everyone is against it.
http://www.igameresponsibly.com/201...elder-scrolls-online-development-cost-insane/
As this is all we have to go on, its all we can use.
I think a couple of recent MMO's don't feel that old, ToR for as much as was wrong with it, didnt feel stale. GW2 was fresh too and The Secret World also had a 'newness' to it
The animations havent changed for ages, generally animations are one of the 1st things worked upon.
Oh and Bethesda have nothing to do with this, they deny its even in existence
The animations havent changed for ages, generally animations are one of the 1st things worked upon.
Oh and Bethesda have nothing to do with this, they deny its even in existence
Soldato
It would require major ignorance of the NDA to do that.
Lots to say about it, but can't.