*** Official Elder Scrolls MMO Thread ***

If WoW can still justify a sub, this could be worth a sub so long as it's £5-10 range. Hopefully they'll have a free trial though, even Bli$$ard have that.
 
I need to play open or closed beta before I even make a decision has to whether I am going to put down that sort of financial commitment.
 
At least the subscription news has made the decision easier not to worry about it come launch.

It's a shame they think they need to go this way, but sort of figured they would.
 
Seriously!?

32p a day, £2.20 a week?

Some of you will spend more then that a during a night down the pub.

Crazy people who think they deserve free games with unlimited content.
 
If WoW can still justify a sub, this could be worth a sub so long as it's £5-10 range. Hopefully they'll have a free trial though, even Bli$$ard have that.

WoW can justify a sub for a reason.

In fact, it's the only MMO I can think of that has truly deserved a subscription. Guild Wars is the only other I can think of, and they've obviously chose their own route.
 
Seriously!?

32p a day, £2.20 a week?

Some of you will spend more then that a during a night down the pub.

Crazy people who think they deserve free games with unlimited content.

Over a year that's well over £100 quid including the price of the game as well :rolleyes:

Unless you're one of these people who hammer MMO's 8 hours a day it isn't worth that.
 
Over a year that's well over £100 quid including the price of the game as well :rolleyes:

Unless you're one of these people who hammer MMO's 8 hours a day it isn't worth that.

Lets say once a week on a Friday you go down the pub and buy 3 pints.

3 x £2.50 = £7.50

So in 1 night you spend the same as monthly subscription.

You do this every Friday for a year.

That means you'd spend £360 a year on beer every Friday, once a week.

I'm sorry but for what you get from a MMO subscription, its well worth the money.
 
Lets say once a week on a Friday you go down the pub and buy 3 pints.

3 x £2.50 = £7.50

So in 1 night you spend the same as monthly subscription.

You do this every Friday for a year.

That means you'd spend £360 a year on beer every Friday, once a week.

I'm sorry but for what you get from a MMO subscription, its well worth the money.

You're mixing real life with the virtual world, not everyone goes down the pub either or drinks. I'd still rather spend my money socialising than spend £150 on a game for only 1 year.
 
You're mixing real life with the virtual world, not everyone goes down the pub either or drinks. I'd still rather spend my money socialising than spend £150 on a game for only 1 year.

I'm in a guild with 35 other people who i know.

At most there is 10+ players online who i know very well.

I wouldn't get that if i went down the pub.

Either way you get so much for your money its not even up for debate.

Milk is £1.90 for a 4 pinter, the average household gets through 8 pints a week, that's more then the game sub.
 
It is up for debate though as many people don't agree with subscription based games. I don't care if you spoke to 100 people online, socialising in person is 100% better than speaking through a mic...

Your milk analogy is pointless by the way.
 
It is up for debate though as many people don't agree with subscription based games. I don't care if you spoke to 100 people online, socialising in person is 100% better than speaking through a mic...

Your milk analogy is pointless by the way.

People pay £50 a month for Sky, you wouldn't request Sky to give you there subscription service for free?

My analogies are fine, I'm pointing out the complete insignificance of the subscription price.
 
People pay £50 a month for Sky, you wouldn't request Sky to give you there subscription service for free?

My analogies are fine, I'm pointing out the complete insignificance of the subscription price.

Again another pointless Sky analogy, not the same at all.

The price is significant when there will be better games out this year where you only pay a one off fee, I bet GW2 has had far more content added in it's first year than this will and it has no fee.

£150 gets you 5 AAA titles.
 
Again another pointless Sky analogy, not the same at all.

The price is significant when there will be better games out this year where you only pay a one off fee, I bet GW2 has had far more content added in it's first year than this will and it has no fee.

£150 gets you 5 AAA titles.

And the amount of hours people will put into ESO will easily make up 5 AAA titles, constant content updates and fixes.

Again your really not making a valid point at all.

The Sky subscription is an entertainment based sub, just like ESO. The analogy is fine.
 
And the amount of hours people will put into ESO will easily make up 5 AAA titles, constant content updates and fixes.

Again your really not making a valid point at all.

The Sky subscription is an entertainment based sub, just like ESO. The analogy is fine.

How do you know about these constant updates already and fixes? Have you even played Skyrim? Yes they throw a lot of DLC at it but most of it is extremely short and fixes hahaha don't make me laugh, Skyrim still has some very annoying simple to fix bugs that are still there years after release, people had to make unofficial patches for the base game and all DLC's to fix many of them.

The amount of hours you put in varies, not everyone bashes MMO's for hours on end like the hardcore wow tech gods.

Sky subscription differs as it isn't the same form of entertainment, costs a lot more and you can chose how much you pay a month depending on packages :)
 
How do you know about these constant updates already and fixes? Have you even played Skyrim? Yes they throw a lot of DLC at it but most of it is extremely short and fixes hahaha don't make me laugh, Skyrim still has some very annoying simple to fix bugs that are still there years after release, people had to make unofficial patches for the base game and all DLC's to fix many of them.

First off Skyrim is made by another company.

Zenimax have stated they will be providing constant content updates and bug fixes.

If they didn't, i'm pretty sure, regardless of payment options, the game would fail.


Sky subscription differs as it isn't the same form of entertainment, costs a lot more and you can chose how much you pay a month depending on packages :)

Its an entertainment subscription that provides entertainment. Just like a game.

You can choose how much you pay, but the less you pay, the less you get. Either way, the Sky analogy is fine.
 
First off Skyrim is made by another company.

Zenimax have stated they will be providing constant content updates and bug fixes.

If they didn't, i'm pretty sure, regardless of payment options, the game would fail.




Its an entertainment subscription that provides entertainment. Just like a game.

You can choose how much you pay, but the less you pay, the less you get. Either way, the Sky analogy is fine.

I've heard companies promise the earth before release many a time, I'll believe it when I see it.

I've already explained how the Sky analogy is different yet you still try and defend it. Paying for TV is not the same as paying a monthly sub for a game, Sky offers far more than 1 title.
 
I've heard companies promise the earth before release many a time, I'll believe it when I see it.

I've already explained how the Sky analogy is different yet you still try and defend it. Paying for TV is not the same as paying a monthly sub for a game, Sky offers far more than 1 title.

Your pigeon holing the game into a 1 dimensional object.

MMO's have multiple different layers, PvP, End Game PvE, Social, Alts, Multiple Classes and races, Multiple areas, crafting, events and soon.

I'm not going to try and explain to you how a MMO is massive in scale and is easily comparable to 3-5 single player titles.

The analogy with Sky was to show that an entertainment product with a subscription is fine, Sky is an entertainment subscription that not only charges more, but provides arguably less worthwhile content. With a MMO, you get content catered to you.

It blows my mind that people still think that getting a game for free is good in anyway for the developers or the community as a whole.
 
Your pigeon holing the game into a 1 dimensional object.

MMO's have multiple different layers, PvP, End Game PvE, Social, Alts, Multiple Classes and races, Multiple areas, crafting, events and soon.

I'm not going to try and explain to you how a MMO is massive in scale and is easily comparable to 3-5 single player titles.

The analogy with Sky was to show that an entertainment product with a subscription is fine, Sky is an entertainment subscription that not only charges more, but provides arguably less worthwhile content. With a MMO, you get content catered to you.

It blows my mind that people still think that getting a game for free is good in anyway for the developers or the community as a whole.

Who said anything about getting the game for free? All people want is a one off payment, sub based games are horrible, it creates this must play as much as possible scene and anyone who can't hammer it for hours falls behind. That's what I and many others like about one off payments, you don't feel like you have to play it all the time to get your monies worth.
 
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