**** Official Fallout 4 Thread ****

My experience of pre-ordering games on CD Key sites, is that they release the key on release date.

I've had that whole pre-order debacle in the past and when emailing them with "when will I get my key, as pre-loading has started?" I get the response "we will release keys on the release date."

I guess it depends on whether the discount vs guarantee of pre-loading is worth it.

But it maybe different with FO4.

Opposite experience for me, depends on the game but I've preordered from GMG quite a few times and usually had the key in time to pre-load.
 
The biggest spoiler for me so far - and this is just from the screenies - has been:

the 'before the nukes' gameplay. I really wish I hadn't saw those images. It would have been very cool to experience that unknowingly. Now my brain is thinking "is he the main char? does he get cryo'd? is he the (great) grandfather of the main char?" etc :( :D
 
Opposite experience for me, depends on the game but I've preordered from GMG quite a few times and usually had the key in time to pre-load.

Yeah I think GMG is an official retailer is it not? (price is the same as Steam?)

I'm referring to sites such as CDkeys, which is more of a grey market broker for keys.
 
I'm really hoping that Bethesda don't do an EA and just have the steam installer on a disc
They already have the disc only contains a few GB of data the majority needs to be downloaded direct from Steam on release day! Only 1 DVD is in the box but the game is 30GB so that means you need to download around 20-22GB.

Also I noticed unlike previous Fallout games on PC this time the price is almost the same as the Steam price no discounts are being offered either.
 
Yeah I think GMG is an official retailer is it not? (price is the same as Steam?)

I'm referring to sites such as CDkeys, which is more of a grey market broker for keys.

Ah yeah I guess that's why, I tend to shy away from the grey sellers.

As somebody else mentioned they pretty much always have at least a 20% off code so not a cheap as the likes of CD Keys but a fair bit cheaper than steam, think I used a 23% code when I purchased it.
 
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I'm really hoping that Bethesda don't do an EA and just have the steam installer on a disc

They have. That is officially confirmed from Bethesda.

Well, almost that. There's a bit of Fallout 4 on the disc, but only a bit. Which is in some ways more annoying because it's purely for deception. You must download most of Fallout 4 using Steam. The disc is a prop and a Steam installer. The only thing that might be different between the "disc" version and the normal Steam version is that it might be necessary to keep the disc in the drive as well as using Steam.

It doesn't bother me directly because I pre-ordered the boxed version solely because at the time it was >20% cheaper than the Steam version (£38 on disc, £50 on Steam). I'm going to use the boxed version only to read the CD key to download the Steam version anyway. But the deceit bothers me. Bethesda are lying - they say Fallout 4 is available on disc and it isn't. They are selling a falsely described "disc" version that isn't a disc version.
 
The only thing that might be different between the "disc" version and the normal Steam version is that it might be necessary to keep the disc in the drive as well as using Steam.


If it's a game that's activated on Steam, they'll be no requirement for the disc to be in the drive to install or play. Just redeem the CD key and download, install and play all through Steam without any disc going into the drive.
 
RP was always going to be limited unfortunately with Bethesda making it:(

I'm massively looking forward to it, but my expectations have been adjusted accordingly... I was hoping for a great rpg, it seems like it will be a great action game with some stilted RPG-lite features. The voiced character is by far my biggest problem with it though.

Exactly my position. The voiced character might blight the game for me because it looks like they've done it very badly, to the extent that not only can you not choose what the character says but that the choices presented are false and the character says something else! That's pointlessly crap.

At the very least, that means that the character has only the personality given to them by the writers and voice artist, leaving the player no choice and no scope for any roleplay. Every time the character has a speaking option, the player has to examine the pseudo-choices offered and attempt to interpret them into the personality the player thinks that Bethesda has given the character in order to attempt to predict what the character will actually say.

It would be better for the dialogue choices to be presented honestly, e.g. to label them things like "friendly response", "polite neutral response", "uncaring response", "hostile response", "question about <topic>", etc. If a game character has a personality written by the game writers, it should be done that way honestly.

Essentially, it's the deception that annoys me. If I can choose what the character says, be honest about it. If I can't, be honest about it. Don't give me dialogue options and then have the character say something different. That's just taking the **** out of me unless it's a deliberate plot point for a specific reason (e.g. the character is being manipulated somehow by something or someone in the game and isn't in control of their own speech).
 
If it's a game that's activated on Steam, they'll be no requirement for the disc to be in the drive to install or play. Just redeem the CD key and download, install and play all through Steam without any disc going into the drive.

Yes, but what if someone uses the disc to install the game? Many people will, since they've been deceived into thinking they've bought the game on disc.
 
Yes, but what if someone uses the disc to install the game? Many people will, since they've been deceived into thinking they've bought the game on disc.

its 2015, they haven't been decieved.

It probably has a disclaimer on the disk case that says 'addtitional download required', that'll be their trump card.
 
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