Usually avoid them anyway but thanks for the headsup!
**** Official Fallout 4 Thread ****
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Usually avoid them anyway but thanks for the headsup!
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That dialogue in the trailer, lol... having said that I don't remember either of F03 or NV (or Skyrim) being particularly amazingly written either (some might say the slightly B-movie cliche-ridden writing is part of the charm!)
I'm tentatively excited, I think it'll be slightly buggy and have some weird issues as games from this series always do but I also think there's a good chance by the time F05 rolls around people will be citing this game as some sort of gold standard as well and saying all the same exact things they're saying now...
I was planning to have a quick blast on New Vegas this weekend but it seems my massively over-modded copy has gotten messed up somehow and won't launch... might have to re-download
I'm tentatively excited, I think it'll be slightly buggy and have some weird issues as games from this series always do but I also think there's a good chance by the time F05 rolls around people will be citing this game as some sort of gold standard as well and saying all the same exact things they're saying now...
I was planning to have a quick blast on New Vegas this weekend but it seems my massively over-modded copy has gotten messed up somehow and won't launch... might have to re-download
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Whinge whinge whinge
Just don't buy it
The game is looking awesome in every way to me, I personally can't wait
Yeah this is typically how I'm starting to feel after reading the last few pages of comment.
The Fallout franchise typically serves a loyal niche, which grows with each release. There were die hard 1+2 fans who lambasted the 3rd game saying FPS was a sin and an insult to the original series, yet it's spawned a further two massive games that have scored 91 and 84 respectively on Metacritic and achieved Golden Joysticks, Game of the Year, IGN, Gamespot etc awards.
Unless they've done something seriously wrong with FO4, I can't see that changing any time soon. Sure people are entitled to their opinion, but given the pedigree this game is coming from I'm quietly confident that they'll be in the minority and that this game will be enjoyed by the majority and I dare say go on to win several awards as per is predecessors.
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What I'd really like to see them do (with F05 or later) is something similar to what Epic are doing at the moment with Unreal (tournament) - really reach out to the community during the development of the game and get hold of the skilled level designers and modders, let them be a part of it etc...
Imagine if they let each of the big modders who typically has worked on the huge mod expansions in the past have access to the proper development tools earlier on and said "here you go - make your own big self contained sub-area of the game". They wouldn't know where exactly that area would sit in the final map but they could add their own quests, NPCs etc. whatever they want...
Then the team at Bethesda could take those many sub-areas and integrate them into the game world, and then add in some of their own content which links the areas together better (quest destinations from other areas and such like).
This would allow the game world to be *huge*, and not only that but having a bigger set of people working on it would naturally make the different areas have distinct feels to the design, and they could generally just achieve a much bigger scope in the result.
(Like I say this is exactly what Epic have been doing with Unreal - let the community submit maps, models, etc whatever they like and involve them in the development from the early stages. Seems to be working well so far)
Edit: inb4 "OMFGERD SLAVE LABOUR" - I think that's a valid concern but look at the hours some of these modders put into their content for free in the first place. Besides I'm sure Bethesda could come up with some sort of scheme for re-imbursing those that contribute - (worth noting they'd also get a pretty amazing entry for their C.Vs etc.)
Imagine if they let each of the big modders who typically has worked on the huge mod expansions in the past have access to the proper development tools earlier on and said "here you go - make your own big self contained sub-area of the game". They wouldn't know where exactly that area would sit in the final map but they could add their own quests, NPCs etc. whatever they want...
Then the team at Bethesda could take those many sub-areas and integrate them into the game world, and then add in some of their own content which links the areas together better (quest destinations from other areas and such like).
This would allow the game world to be *huge*, and not only that but having a bigger set of people working on it would naturally make the different areas have distinct feels to the design, and they could generally just achieve a much bigger scope in the result.
(Like I say this is exactly what Epic have been doing with Unreal - let the community submit maps, models, etc whatever they like and involve them in the development from the early stages. Seems to be working well so far)
Edit: inb4 "OMFGERD SLAVE LABOUR" - I think that's a valid concern but look at the hours some of these modders put into their content for free in the first place. Besides I'm sure Bethesda could come up with some sort of scheme for re-imbursing those that contribute - (worth noting they'd also get a pretty amazing entry for their C.Vs etc.)
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I shall be investing my hours into this, even if it's not as good as expected. The pool of games to play at the moment is shallow.
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Especially RPG games following Witcher 3.
I can't wait for this, so excited.
I can't wait for this, so excited.
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Let's find the platinum chip (Fallout: NV)
Let's find the water chip (Fallout)
Let's stop the enclave and save my tribe (Fallout 2)
That statement can work for any game and is rather silly.
Let's whinge!
That can also be applied to quite a few in here who seem to feel entitled.
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Let's whinge!
That can also be applied to quite a few in here who seem to feel entitled.
I'm not whinging, I'm very much in the "wait and see" crowd.
This thread is very reminiscent of the Witcher 3 thread before release.
The urge to go on a rant is growing...Lucky I'm going out in a minute
Lets just leave it at I disagree
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It's funny how this thread has a tonne more activity than the Console one, but all of the extra chat is people whinging about graphics and map size. The console chaps (of which I am now one) just stfu until something pretty/exciting comes up
Either that or we've long since realised graphics aren't the be-all-end-all of a gaming experience.
For what it's worth I'm very much excite to play and just wish I'd bashed out Witcher 3 faster, only just got to Skellige
Either that or we've long since realised graphics aren't the be-all-end-all of a gaming experience.
For what it's worth I'm very much excite to play and just wish I'd bashed out Witcher 3 faster, only just got to Skellige
The best thing - by far - in FO3 was the exploration. The dialogue in many places was crap. B-grade as someone else said.
I don't like Liam Neeson either, but nevermind that
It was still an enjoyable game for me, but not thanks to the quests or the writing; purely because the world was so vast and well realised.
However Skyrim was/is even better for the same reasons. I'm hoping FO4 will be yet another improvement in terms of exploration and world building. If they improve the plot/quests that will be a bonus. And hopefully there won't be so many of those terrible invisible walls that plagued FO3 in the city areas. Nothing breaks immersion quite like trying to climb a small pile of rubble (ankle high) and finding it's actually an invisible game boundary.
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Yes uncle_rufus I had same problems ended up doing a reinstall about half way into the game now by the time I get to the end it will be the holidays and hopefully Fallout 4 will have had a few bug fixes and be a bit lower in price.
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The best thing - by far - in FO3 was the exploration. The dialogue in many places was crap. B-grade as someone else said.
I don't like Liam Neeson either, but nevermind that
It was still an enjoyable game for me, but not thanks to the quests or the writing; purely because the world was so vast and well realised.
However Skyrim was/is even better for the same reasons. I'm hoping FO4 will be yet another improvement in terms of exploration and world building. If they improve the plot/quests that will be a bonus. And hopefully there won't be so many of those terrible invisible walls that plagued FO3 in the city areas. Nothing breaks immersion quite like trying to climb a small pile of rubble (ankle high) and finding it's actually an invisible game boundary.
Yes that boundary problem was big issue for game play and immersion. It would drive me mad at times.
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lets face it...as long as they play safe people will lap it up
ever since oblivion they have been on a winning streak...people love these open world games with character progression
and all have had their critics, be it about story or graphics, but all have sold well and have have loyal fan bases
and since Skyrim was such a runaway success,they know how to tailor these styles of games to push all the right buttons for RPG players
graphics can be modded but its the game design that counts. and they inevitably get it bang on
ever since oblivion they have been on a winning streak...people love these open world games with character progression
and all have had their critics, be it about story or graphics, but all have sold well and have have loyal fan bases
and since Skyrim was such a runaway success,they know how to tailor these styles of games to push all the right buttons for RPG players
graphics can be modded but its the game design that counts. and they inevitably get it bang on
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Fallout has always and will always be about exploration for me in a world I'd rather not see personally. Looking at how FO4 gives you the opportunity to properly scavenge the land and use a plethora of all objects to construct and upgrade various things, this is where I believe I'll loose most of my time and will make this a true masterpiece. It's going to feel great to finally feel like "yes I'm finally in a desolate world and I truly need to scavenge to stay alive" And lets be honest here, the graphics, they look just fine to me. Some of the biggest selling games in the past few years have had graphics you would associate with the 80's but the gameplay was what immersed you into the world.
Eh, plenty of talk about graphics there and other forums among console folks. Graphics have really become a hot button issue in the console world, especially with this new generation of systems.It's funny how this thread has a tonne more activity than the Console one, but all of the extra chat is people whinging about graphics and map size. The console chaps (of which I am now one) just stfu until something pretty/exciting comes up
Either that or we've long since realised graphics aren't the be-all-end-all of a gaming experience.
For what it's worth I'm very much excite to play and just wish I'd bashed out Witcher 3 faster, only just got to Skellige
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the other thing they always seem to get right is the weapons
theres nothing worse in a game than limp feeling or sounding weapons
the weapons in fallout 3 and NV always felt right, the modded hunting rifle was a joy to use, as was the crossbow in skyrim...they always felt ..right..I cant describe it any better then that I am afraid! its not a measureable thing, its purely a feeling!
theres nothing worse in a game than limp feeling or sounding weapons
the weapons in fallout 3 and NV always felt right, the modded hunting rifle was a joy to use, as was the crossbow in skyrim...they always felt ..right..I cant describe it any better then that I am afraid! its not a measureable thing, its purely a feeling!
This so much! I always go off track and get lost in the exploration and side quests with these games. I recently went back and played oblivion and skyrim again for the sole purpose of completing the main quests as i'd completely neglected them in the hundreds of hours i'd put into both games previously. The main quests are more of a sideshow in these types of games.
When did everyone become such pessimists? If fallout 4 is basically skyrim in the fallout setting then i will be very happy with that.
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