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McBain · 20 Feb 2016 at 17:02

Anyone here using an Amazon Fire TV 4K box for Kodi? I bought a Fire TV stick and although it seems to run Kodi adequately, it does seem to be a little laggy and unresponsive at times.

shatpank81 · 20 Feb 2016 at 21:46

McBain said:
Anyone here using an Amazon Fire TV 4K box for Kodi? I bought a Fire TV stick and although it seems to run Kodi adequately, it does seem to be a little laggy and unresponsive at times.

i bought one at xmas when it was £64.99.
cannot fault it.. so much snappier than the fire stick my daughter has in her room

russ9898 · 20 Feb 2016 at 23:07

McBain said:
Anyone here using an Amazon Fire TV 4K box for Kodi? I bought a Fire TV stick and although it seems to run Kodi adequately, it does seem to be a little laggy and unresponsive at times.

My parents have one. I'm considering replacing my htpc with one having seen the Amazon 4k box in action.

McBain · 21 Feb 2016 at 00:01

Thanks chaps, think i'll buy one and retire the stick to the bedroom TV.

DavidMarq · 21 Feb 2016 at 08:10

McBain said:
Thanks chaps, think i'll buy one and retire the stick to the bedroom TV.

Mine is silky smooth with Kodi and a few addons.

snappyfish · 21 Feb 2016 at 08:16

I find barley anything runs on kodi. Add ons etc. Cant find stream and so on.

Vampyre · 21 Feb 2016 at 09:40

The Deuce said:
Fully loaded....hahahahahahaha why do people buy into this rubbish?

The Kodi Dev's are also not happy about it

DavidMarq · 21 Feb 2016 at 09:40

snappyfish said:
I find barley anything runs on kodi. Add ons etc. Cant find stream and so on.

Lots of blocking going on at ISP level a VPN is your friend. I have several "popular" addons running with a minimum of broken links.

Frozennova · 21 Feb 2016 at 10:15

Good on the Kodi team.

I've been using it since the original Xbox days and it never has been a piracy platform. It's to consume your own media, ripped from your own hard copies.

DavidMarq · 21 Feb 2016 at 10:32

Frozennova said:
Good on the Kodi team.

I've been using it since the original Xbox days and it never has been a piracy platform. It's to consume your own media, ripped from your own hard copies.

Which begs the question which laws is it acceptable to break? Your rip is a pirated copy...

Frozennova · 21 Feb 2016 at 10:40

DavidMarq said:
Which begs the question which laws is it acceptable to break? Your rip is a pirated copy...

Oh come off it, I understand that from a legal standpoint it is illegal.

But let's be fair, what's wrong with me buying a Blu-ray and ripping it to play on Kodi. It isn't piracy, I haven't "stolen" the media, and the studios/actors etc have got their paycheck from me obtaining the film.

DavidMarq · 21 Feb 2016 at 10:51

Frozennova said:
Oh come off it, I understand that from a legal standpoint it is illegal.

But let's be fair, what's wrong with me buying a Blu-ray and ripping it to play on Kodi. It isn't piracy, I haven't "stolen" the media, and the studios/actors etc have got their paycheck from me obtaining the film.

Hey I am not the morality police just pointing out a level of hypocrisy. The studios/actors etc have entitlement to a second pay check due to your rip.

.:SAmSuNG:. · 21 Feb 2016 at 12:05

So if he ripped it and then destroyed the original copy would this mean he now only legally owns the one copy?

DavidMarq · 21 Feb 2016 at 12:14

.:SAmSuNG:. said:
So if he ripped it and then destroyed the original copy would this mean he now only legally owns the one copy?

I am no expert, but as far as I understand it the licence is generally for the media on which it is supplied.

But to add to the greyness is the ripped copy still only one copy if it can be accessed simultaneously on a central server by multiple devices? :confused:

Frozennova · 21 Feb 2016 at 12:17

Or what if I ripped then all in the 6 month period it was legal, do I then have to delete them?

Domi · 21 Feb 2016 at 13:45

Honestly if you own the physical media for example a Blu ray disc do you honestly believe any judge would convict you of a crime if you backup that disc to a media server ?

I started to do this years ago in particular to protect my DVD collection and then my Music collection, this is NOT the same as downloading pirate material.

This is no different in any way shape or form to ripping a CD to a phone or your car stereo and no different to using SKY + to record a movie from the BBC and keeping it forever.

There is indeed a grey area over legality but really you think you might go to court for this ?

Frozennova · 21 Feb 2016 at 13:53

Domi said:
Honestly if you own the physical media for example a Blu ray disc do you honestly believe any judge would convict you of a crime if you backup that disc to a media server ?

I started to do this years ago in particular to protect my DVD collection and then my Music collection, this is NOT the same as downloading pirate material.

This is no different in any way shape or form to ripping a CD to a phone or your car stereo and no different to using SKY + to record a movie from the BBC and keeping it forever.

There is indeed a grey area over legality but really you think you might go to court for this ?

Absolutely not, but from a legal perspective it's isn't any different to someone buying one of the "fully loaded" Kodi boxes and streaming a bucket load of content they don't own.

Both are quite simply in the eyes of the law wrong, but only one is what most of us consider morally wrong.

Psycho Sonny · 21 Feb 2016 at 14:01

Clearcut said:
Got one of these Android boxes yesterday 'fully loaded' with Kodi on it. When I managed to find something I could actually watch (some random TV episode) the picture quality which was supposed to be HD was terrible. I went upstairs and downloaded the same episode from elsewhere and the difference was incredible - 1080p. When you have Netflix and the ability to download whatever you want, why would you possibly want to go down this route?

Is it for people who are nostalgic for VHS copies of movies in the 80's?

When you switch them on they promise so much, yet deliver so little.

they are for people who aren't tech savvy.

more than half my office has one now. 2 people in my team where talking about buying them the other day and probably already have.

it's for people who don't know how to torrent basically. my office has quite a lot of old people in their fifties, etc. they just don't care about quality so long as it's free.

think of it as a crap version of netflix in terms of picture quality but the content isn't as limited you can get anything on there so in that regards it's a whole lot better. can you watch live football on netflix? can you get anything that's current? nope , netflix is crap all the content is ancient.

the mentality of my office is cancel sky and the £35 a month you save the box pays for itself after a month. yes it's fiddly but the more you use it the more learn and you figure out where to get the better quality streams.

i've bought one for the wife and in laws as they are so easy to use.

what you need to realise is the majority of people don't give a rats *** about quality so long as it's watchable it's good enough.

McBain · 21 Feb 2016 at 21:27

Thanks to those that recommended the 4K Amazon box, it's buttery smooth running Kodi, it's lovely

The stick is still a worthwhile piece of kit for the price, but I wouldn't fancy using it as a main.

NeverWinter · 22 Feb 2016 at 09:55

NeverWinter said:
Need some help guys, just put OpenElec on my HTPC, if I shutdown/restart I get no audio, changing the audio source in Kodi settings and back again resolves it. However if I put it in suspend when it wakes the sound is fine.

It's a HD6450, HDMI straight to a TV currently.

Anyone got any ideas on this?

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